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Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2014, machine/vehicle number: MIKA111-Kran152, DEMAG KBK overhead crane, dimensions approx. 18.2 x 3 m Load capacity / lifting capacity 2 x 50 kg per vacuum lifter Technical data of the system: Overhead crane track 2 x 8 x 3 m made of Demag KBK2 rails Height of steel structure 4 m Top of steel structure (purlin) 4 m Bottom of steel structure (purlin) 3.72 m Bottom of crane track 3.35 m Bottom of bridge 3 m Width approx. 3.1 m Lifting height of vacuum lifter approx. 30-220 cm External dimensions of steel structure (space requirement) 18.3 x 3.1 m Support spacing 8.85 m Dimensions of overhead crane track approx. 8 x 3 m System is delivered complete: KBK rails, rail connectors Carriages, end plates, cable track, holders/hangers, etc. + complete steel structure (IPE180 + square tube 150x150 mm) incl. 2 x vacuum pump with 2 x Palamatic vacuum tube lifter 3, capacity 50 kg Kdjdpfx Akozv Icvjpeu System is disassembled and packed on a pallet 1 vacuum lifter is available as a spare Item location is 75053 Gondelsheim Very good condition - almost new. See pictures. Shipping by freight forwarder or pick-up only after prior arrangement. Demag KBK1, KBK2 and KBK3 rails are in stock!

Condition: like new (used), Year of construction: 2019, machine/vehicle number: DN-EDL-2500KG, Abus EDL overhead crane, bridge crane, crane system, hall crane, portal crane, suspended crane system Payload: 2500 kg Width: approx. 11.5 m, track gauge: approx. 10.5 m Includes wireless remote control Lifting height/hook travel: 6 m Connection: 400 V, 16 A Year of manufacture: 2019 Very good condition, almost new. See pictures. Shipping via freight forwarder, collection preferred. Location: 75053 Gondelsheim Kdsdszv Eluspfx Akpou Please inquire about shipping costs based on your postal code; we will provide you with an immediate and non-binding offer!

Condition: excellent (used), functionality: fully functional, Year of construction: 1990, machine/vehicle number: CR2431 90-240381, Demag ELKE bridge crane, overhead crane, crane, crane gantry, crane runway Kdodpfx Aszf Upbjkpou Load capacity / lever load: 3.2 - 3200 kg Gauge: approx. 12,200 m, overall width: approx. 12,400 mm with floor control and fine positioning Demag DH hoist 3200 kg Lifting height: 6 m Overall height from top of crane to hook: approx. 1050 mm Head beam length with buffer: approx. 220 cm Crane is disassembled and immediately available. Good used condition. Column-mounted swivel cranes and wall-mounted swivel cranes are also available. Demag KBK and Abus HB systems, as well as Errikla, Hadef, Stahl KT 2000, etc. Shipping by freight forwarder is possible, please inquire with your postal code. Collection preferred.

Condition: like new (used), functionality: fully functional, Year of construction: 2018, machine/vehicle number: DN2380 500KG, ABUS Lightweight Portal Crane / Gantry Crane Type: LPK Load capacity/lifting capacity: 500 kg Crane girder/steel structure consisting of IPE200 beam / square tube 140x140, standing on 4 heavy-duty swivel casters (200 mm) with 500 kg ABUS GM chain hoist with trolley drive Overall height approx. 4.92 m Width approx. 7 m Bottom edge of running rail approx. 4.65 cm Depth approx. 200 cm Hook height approx. 4.2 m Crane is disassembled and immediately available. The item is located in 75053 Gondelsheim. Very good condition, almost like new. See pictures. Shipping by freight forwarder or collection only by prior arrangement. Kedpfszvrg Sjx Akpodu

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2018, machine/vehicle number: TD-RR, Altmann Cleanroom Crane + Steel Construction - Gantry Crane, Portal Crane, Crane System, Crane Runway, Hall Crane Altmann GmbH TYPE: ELP1.25-2.800E_RR Approximate dimensions L x W x H: 6.75 x 2.5 x 3.5 m 1 gantry crane with a load capacity of 1250 kg and wire rope hoist (controlled by radio and frequency inverter) Kedszdbziepfx Akpjdu The system is delivered complete: Steel structure/crane runway, free-standing + power supply 1 gantry crane, 1250 kg load capacity, incl. wire rope hoist Cover for the lifting mechanism is missing The crane is disassembled and immediately available The item is located in 75053 Gondelsheim Very good condition, see pictures Shipping via freight forwarder or collection only by prior arrangement.

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2001, machine/vehicle number: DN-HB160-250KG, ABUS HB overhead crane system with dimensions of approximately 19 x 4 m (4 m span) Kdjdpfx Aezv Ea Sokpou Extending the runway rails is possible! Load capacity / lifting capacity: 250 kg - 0.25 tons - increasing the load capacity up to 1000 kg is possible! Technical data of the system: Crane system with ABUS HB160 rails The system is delivered complete: HB rails, rail connectors, carriages, travel drive in the span, end plates, supports/hangers, etc. Including a 250 kg ABUS chain hoist - lifting height approximately 4 m The crane is disassembled and immediately available. Used condition, see pictures. The item is located in 75053 Gondelsheim. Shipping via freight forwarder or collection by appointment only. Demag KBK1, KBK2, and KBK3 rails are in stock! Other KBK systems are also available. Load capacity: 125 kg - 1600 kg. Please request a non-binding quote for your crane system, specifying the load capacity and dimensions.

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2001, machine/vehicle number: DN3486 / 3482, ABUS HB overhead crane system with dimensions of approximately 7x6m (6m span) The crane is available in two units! – Extension of the runway rails is possible! Kdsdpfszvrcgjx Akpsu Load capacity / lifting capacity: 500 KG - 0.5 tons Technical data of the system: Crane system consisting of ABUS HB160 rails The system is delivered complete: HB rails, rail connectors, trolleys, travel drives, end plates, supports/hangers, etc. Includes 500KG ABUS chain hoist - lifting height approximately 4m The crane is dismantled and immediately available Used condition, see images The item is located in 75053 Gondelsheim Shipping via freight forwarder or collection by appointment only Demag KBK1, KBK2, and KBK3 rails are in stock! Other KBK systems are also available. Load capacity 125KG - 1600KG Please request a non-binding quote for your overhead crane system, specifying the load capacity and dimensions.

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2015, machine/vehicle number: MIKA110-Kran152-33?, DEMAG KBK overhead crane, dimensions approx. 8.8 x 3 m Kjdozv Ib Sopfx Akpedu Payload / lifting capacity: 1 x 50 kg at the suction lifter Technical data of the system: Overhead crane track 8 x 3 m, made of Demag KBK2 rails Height of steel structure: 4 m Top of steel structure (purlin): 4 m Bottom of steel structure (purlin): 3.72 m Bottom of crane running rail: 3.35 m Bottom of bridge: 3 m Width: approx. 3.1 m Lifting height of suction lifter: approx. 30-220 cm External dimensions of steel structure (space requirement): 9.3 x 3.1 m Support spacing: 8.85 m Dimensions of overhead crane track: approx. 8 x 3 m The system will be delivered complete: KBK rails, rail connectors Carriages, end plates, cable carrier, brackets/hangers, etc. + complete steel structure (IPE180 + square tube 150x150 mm) Incl. vacuum pump with Palamatic vacuum tube lifter 3, capacity 50 kg The system is disassembled and packed on a pallet Item location is 75053 Gondelsheim Very good condition - almost new. See pictures. Shipping by freight forwarder or collection by appointment only. Demag KBK1, KBK2, and KBK3 rails are in stock!

Condition: excellent (used), functionality: fully functional, Year of construction: 1998, machine/vehicle number: KA27 - 14/796736, ABUS overhead crane, crane runway, bridge crane, indoor crane, crane Payload / lifting capacity 1.6t – 1600kg Span 9550mm, external dimension approx. 9700mm Year of manufacture 1998 with pendant control Lifting height 6m Hoist GM816 L06 Overall height top of crane to hook approx. 710mm (320mm beam + 390mm hoist) End carriage length without buffers approx. 220cm Optionally, two running rails 2x 40m HEA240 are available. Crane is disassembled and immediately available Very good condition, inspection logbook available Kdjdpjwzrtxefx Akpou Pillar jib cranes and wall-mounted jib cranes are also available Demag KBK and Abus HB systems, as well as Errikla, Hadef, Stahl KT 2000 etc. Shipping by freight forwarder possible, please inquire with postal code Collection preferred

Year of construction: 1984, condition: used, machine/vehicle number: 20020310-311, DEMAG KBK 2 crane canopy Crane runway dimensions approx. 50m x 8m other lengths and widths possible, please inquire ! Kodpfsty S Dgex Akpsdu Payload / lifting capacity 2x 500 KG - 0,5to Technical data of the system: Crane runway made of Demag KBK2 rails with internal power supply and 3 travel drives System is supplied complete: KBK rails, rail connectors, trolleys, end plates, brackets/hangers etc. 2 bridges each: incl. 1 Demag PK 500KG chain hoist each + 3 travel drives each Lifting height approx. 5m Crane is disassembled and immediately available Used condition, see pictures Item location is 75053 Gondelsheim Shipping by forwarding agent or collection by appointment only Demag KBK1 KBK2 and KBK3 tracks are stock items ! Other KBK installations are also in stock. Payload 125KG - 1600KG Please ask for your crane runway with lifting capacity and dimensions.

Condition: used, functionality: fully functional, Year of construction: 1989, machine/vehicle number: ROD396, DEMAG KBK Crane Ceiling Crane Runway with dimensions approx. 19.5x7m (2x 7m bridge) Payload / Lifting Capacity: 2x 250 kg - 0.25 t Technical Data of the System: Runway made from Demag KBK2 rails, one side with KBKII-R rails featuring integrated power feed Kedpoxdvn Ajfx Akpjdu System is supplied complete: KBK rails, rail connectors, trolleys, end plates, brackets/hangers etc. including 2 bridges, each 250 kg including 2x 250 kg Demag DC chain hoists Crane is dismantled and immediately available Used condition, see pictures Item location: 75053 Gondelsheim Shipping by freight carrier or collection only by appointment Demag KBK1, KBK2 and KBK3 rails are in stock! Other KBK systems available. Load capacities from 125 kg to 1600 kg Please inquire about your crane runway with required capacity and dimensions, non-binding.

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2005, machine/vehicle number: TD2002/2360, DEMAG KBK overhead crane system with approximate dimensions of 3x4m (4m span) This crane is available in multiple units! Other sizes are also available – please inquire! Load capacity / lifting capacity: 800 kg - 0.8 tons Technical data of the system: Crane system with Demag KBK2 rails The system is delivered complete: KBK rails, rail connectors, trolleys, end plates, supports/hangers, etc. The crane has internal power supply Includes 800 kg Demag DKES chain hoist (infinitely variable) - lifting height approx. 3m The crane is disassembled and immediately available Very good condition, see pictures The item is located in 75053 Gondelsheim Shipping by freight forwarder or collection only by appointment Demag KBK1, KBK2 and KBK3 rails are in stock! Ksdpfx Asztut Nekpedu Other KBK systems are also available. Load capacity 125 kg - 1600 kg Please request a non-binding quote for your overhead crane system, specifying the load capacity and dimensions.

Year of construction: 2011, condition: excellent (used), machine/vehicle number: MBMA500Ausschub, DEMAG KBK - double girder extending crane - crane runway with dimensions approx. 15x5m (5m bridge + 2 central 6.5m rails) with approx. 1.5m on both sides !!! extension. Kodpju I Ur Njfx Akpedu Payload / lifting capacity 500 KG - 0,5to Technical data of the system: Crane runway made of Demag KBK2 rails The installation is supplied complete: KBK rails, rail connectors, trolleys, end plates, brackets/supports, extension frame type B2/2 etc. incl. 500KG Demag DC chain hoist - lifting height approx. 5m Power supply on the long side by means of conductor rails Crane is dismantled and immediately available Running rails can be extended to length x Very good used condition, see pictures Item location is 75053 Gondelsheim Shipping by forwarding agent or collection by appointment only Demag KBK1 KBK2 and KBK3 tracks are stock items ! Other KBK installations are also in stock. Payload 125KG - 1600KG Please ask for your crane runway with load capacity and dimensions without obligation.

Year of construction: 2014, condition: like new (used), machine/vehicle number: 20020235 UG, DEMAG ALU crane canopy Crane runway dimensions approx. 6x4m Payload / lifting capacity 250 KG - 0,25to Technical data of the system: Crane runway made of Demag aluminum rails 180mm with internal power supply System is supplied complete: Rails, rail connectors, trolleys, end plates, cable drag, brackets/hangers etc. incl. Demag DCS PRO2-250 NL 250KG chain hoist - lifting speed 0-16m / min !!! Demag DCS chain hoist 250KG (NEW PRICE 4700 Euro !) Can also be exchanged for a standard model DK2-250 to reduce costs - please inquire ! NEW CONDITION - installed in clean room ! Kdjdpfx Asty S A Nokpou Crane is disassembled and immediately available Mint condition, see pictures Item location is 75053 Gondelsheim Shipping by forwarding agent or collection by appointment only Demag KBK1 KBK2 and KBK3 tracks are stock items ! Demag KBK installations are also in stock. Payload 125KG - 1600KG Please ask for your crane runway with lifting capacity and dimensions.

Year of construction: 1983, condition: excellent (used), machine/vehicle number: 20020233 UG 1 Brücke, DEMAG KBK crane canopy crane runway with dimensions approx. 29 x 6m (6m bridge - double girder crane) Payload / lifting capacity 1000 KG - 1to Technical data of the system: Crane runway made of Demag KBK2 rails with internal current routing System is supplied complete: KBK rails, rail joiners, trolleys, end plates, cable trailing, brackets/hangers etc. incl. Demag PK5 - 1000KG chain hoist - lifting height approx. 4m Crane is disassembled and immediately available Kedpfjty Tdbsx Akpodu Used condition, see pictures Item location is 75053 Gondelsheim Shipping by forwarding agent or collection by appointment only Demag KBK1 KBK2 and KBK3 tracks are stock items ! Other KBK installations are also in stock. Payload 125KG - 1600KG Please ask for your crane runway with load capacity and dimensions without obligation.

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2005, machine/vehicle number: TH2000MessraumRES, DEMAG KBK Crane System Overhead Crane Runway 9.3 x 5.3 m (Bridge travelling path approx. 5 m) The crane is also available in various other dimensions, multiple units in stock with elevated carriages. Load capacity / Lifting capacity: 500 KG Technical data of the system: Crane runway made from Demag KBK2 profiles with elevated carriage – crane girder is located between both running rails for maximum lifting height with internal power supply !! System is delivered complete: Kjdpfx Akov Iai Nopjdu KBK profiles, profile connectors, carriages, end plates, drag chain (internal conductor rail system optional!) brackets/suspension elements etc. including Demag DK chain hoist, capacity 500 KG Crane is dismantled and immediately available Various cranes in stock Good condition, see pictures Item location: 75053 Gondelsheim Shipping via freight forwarding or collection by prior arrangement only Demag KBK1, KBK2 and KBK3 profiles in stock! Other KBK systems with different capacities also available. Load capacities from 125 KG to 1600 KG Please request your required crane runway with load capacity and dimensions without obligation.

Year of construction: 2007, condition: good (used), machine/vehicle number: SB367+368, DEMAG KBK crane canopy Crane runway dimensions approx. 7x6m Payload / lifting capacity 2x 500 KG - 2x 0,5to Technical data of the system: Crane runway made of Demag KBK2 rails Running rails 7m, bridges 6m System is supplied complete: KBK rails, rail joiners, trolleys, end plates, cable towing, brackets/hangers etc. incl. 2x Kito 500KG chain hoist, lifting height approx. 5m Crane is dismantled and immediately available Used condition, see pictures Item location is 75053 Gondelsheim Kjdporwi Dhsfx Akpodu Shipping by forwarding agent or collection by appointment only Demag KBK1 KBK2 and KBK3 tracks are stock items ! Other KBK installations are also in stock. Payload 125KG - 1600KG Please ask for your crane runway with load capacity and dimensions without obligation.

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2007, machine/vehicle number: NBGMAN 1, Demag KBK1 / 2 / ALU crane canopy Crane runway with steel structure Dimensions approx. 10m x 4.6m incl. 2 bridges each 125KG payload / lifting capacity Crane runways can be operated independently of each other. Technical data of the system: Crane runway / steel structure made of HEA 140 girders Dimensions as follows: External dimensions - space requirement approx. 10 x 4.6m with overhead crane payload 2x 125KG with 2x Demag DC chain hoist Approx. dimensions: Top steel structure 5.25m Lower steel structure 4.97m Bottom running rail 4.66 / 4.78m (per crane) Bottom bridge 4.31/4.50m Hook height 3.9/4.1m Kdsdpfx Aker Igrujpju Crane girder length 4 + 6.7m Internal dimension of supports 4.4m Base plate of the prop 40x40cm Prop HEA140 Running rails HEA140 Prop spacing 4.55 + 5.1mm System is supplied complete as supplied: complete steel construction + 2x crane incl. 2x Demag DC chain hoist 125KG Used condition Crane is disassembled and immediately available Item location is 75053 Gondelsheim Shipping by forwarding agent or collection by appointment only

Year of construction: 1984, condition: used, machine/vehicle number: 20020312-313, DEMAG KBK 2 crane canopy Crane runway dimensions approx. 24m x 8.5m other lengths and widths possible, please inquire ! Payload / lifting capacity 500 KG - 0,5to Technical data of the system: Crane runway made of Demag KBK2 rails with internal power supply and 3 travel drives System is supplied complete: KBK rails, rail connectors, trolleys, end plates, brackets/hangers etc. incl. Demag PK 500KG chain hoist + 3 travel drives (new DRF200) Lifting height approx. 5m Crane is disassembled and immediately available 2x available ! Kodpfsttq H Hjx Akpjdu Used condition, see pictures Item location is 75053 Gondelsheim Shipping by freight forwarder or pickup only by appointment Demag KBK1 KBK2 and KBK3 tracks are stock items ! Other KBK installations are also in stock. Payload 125KG - 1600KG Please ask for your crane runway with lifting capacity and dimensions.

Year of construction: 1987, condition: excellent (used), machine/vehicle number: 20020231 EG 1 Brücke, DEMAG KBK crane canopy crane runway with dimensions approx. 35 x 6m (6m bridge - double girder crane) Kdodpfx Akoty Tcwopju Payload / lifting capacity 1000 KG - 1to Technical data of the system: Crane runway made of Demag KBK2 rails with internal current routing System is supplied complete: KBK rails, rail joiners, trolleys, end plates, cable trailing, brackets/hangers etc. incl. Demag PK5 - 1000KG chain hoist - lifting height approx. 4m Crane is disassembled and immediately available Used condition, see pictures Item location is 75053 Gondelsheim Shipping by forwarding agent or collection by appointment only Demag KBK1 KBK2 and KBK3 tracks are stock items ! Other KBK installations are also in stock. Payload 125KG - 1600KG Please ask for your crane runway with load capacity and dimensions without obligation.

Year of construction: 2006, condition: excellent (used), machine/vehicle number: MBUT133-767, Steel single girder suspension crane Bridge crane Crane runway Indoor crane Gantry crane width approx. 8,3m - length approx. 11m, payload 500KG Track width can be changed, end beams (125cm) are bolted with 8 bolts. incl. approx. 2x 11m running rails IPE 300 (were cut in the middle) incl. conductor rail for the power supply by means of the crane track's current grinder The width of the trolleys can also be adjusted to a different girder dimension. Kodpfjty Sx Rex Akpedu Incl. complete control system, floor operation by means of control bottle The crane can be moved electrically in all 3 axes Lifting height/hook path approx. 4m Connection to 400V 16A, year of construction approx. 2006 Very good condition, equipment was only used for maintenance - hardly used Shipping by forwarding agent, collection preferred Location 75053 Gondelsheim Please ask for shipping prices by postal code, we will send you an immediate and non-binding offer!

Year of construction: 2001, condition: excellent (used), machine/vehicle number: BO873+846+847, DEMAG KBK crane canopy crane runway with dimensions approx. 9x7m (7m bridge) This crane is available several times ! Payload / lifting capacity 250 KG - 0,25to Technical data of the system: Crane runway made of Demag KBK2 rails System is supplied complete: KBK rails, rail connectors, trolleys, end plates, brackets/hangers etc. Crane is with internal power supply incl. 250KG Demag chain hoist - lifting height approx. 4m Crane is disassembled and immediately available Used condition, see pictures Item location is 75053 Gondelsheim Kedpfetz R Thjx Akpodu Shipping by forwarding agent or collection by appointment only Demag KBK1 KBK2 and KBK3 tracks are stock items ! Other KBK installations are also in stock. Payload 125KG - 1600KG Please ask for your crane runway with load capacity and dimensions without obligation.

Year of construction: 2008, condition: good (used), machine/vehicle number: SB169, DEMAG KBK crane canopy Crane runway dimensions approx. 6x5m Payload / lifting capacity 800 KG - 0,8to Technical data of the system: Crane runway made of Demag KBK2-T / KBK3 rails Running rail 6m, bridge 5m System is supplied complete: KBK rails, rail joiners, trolleys, end plates, cable towing, brackets/hangers etc. incl. Demag DC 800KG chain hoist, lifting height approx. 5m Kdjdsrwi Saopfx Akpju Crane is disassembled and immediately available Used condition, see pictures Item location is 75053 Gondelsheim Shipping by forwarding agent or collection by appointment only Demag KBK1 KBK2 and KBK3 tracks are stock items ! Other KBK installations are also in stock. Payload 125KG - 1600KG Please ask for your crane runway with load capacity and dimensions without obligation.

Year of construction: 1977, condition: good (used), machine/vehicle number: TH2001/0171-0173, DEMAG KBK crane canopy crane runway with dimensions approx. 10x7m (7m bridge) This crane is available several times ! Payload / lifting capacity 500 KG - 0,5to Technical data of the system: Crane runway made of Demag KBK1+2 rails System is supplied complete: KBK rails, rail connectors, trolleys, end plates, brackets/supports etc. incl. 500Kg steel chain hoist - lifting height approx. 3.5m Crane is dismantled and immediately available Ksdpfovdnivjx Akpedu Used condition, see pictures Item location is 75053 Gondelsheim Shipping by forwarding agent or collection by appointment only Demag KBK1 KBK2 and KBK3 tracks are stock items ! Other KBK installations are also in stock. Payload 125KG - 1600KG Please ask for your crane runway with load capacity and dimensions without obligation.

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 2012, DEMAG Crane Chain Hoist DCM-Pro 2 80 1/1 H2.8 V16/4 80 kg with Crane Girder (2x3m) The Manulift DCM-Pro has been developed for safe and fast load handling with one-hand operation. The DCM-Pro is based on the lifting unit of the DC-Pro chain hoist and the DSM-C control unit. Because the control unit is rigidly connected to the load-carrying device, the operator only needs one hand to operate the chain hoist and guide the load. Application High-quality and sensitive parts can be lifted, lowered, and positioned more gently and safely. Installation processes and assembly operations can be controlled more precisely. Lifting movements can be performed much faster thanks to the almost twice as high nominal speed per lift in the partial load range. Design plug and lift - all electrical connections of the chain hoist are pluggable with a foldable, universal suspension bracket, the hoist can be easily attached to the carriage Kdodpfx Ajhwd E Nekpeu fatigue-free operation thanks to the ergonomically optimized and robust DSC control switch fast replacement of the entire chain drive without disassembling motor or gearbox parts contactor control 24 V, protection class IP55 operating hour counter end-of-travel switch for the upper/lower hook position high safety and long service life thanks to speed-monitored brake/slip clutch principle Advantage one-hand operation, i.e., the control unit is located above the part to be handled (left and right-hand operation via rocker switch) quick-release coupling enables universal use through easy replacement of the various load-carrying devices Technical Data Brand DEMAG EAN 4039247450527 Manufacturer Article Number 93200146 Load Capacity 80 kg Lifting Height 2.8 m Lifting Speed Control In 2 stages Lifting Speed Fine Lift 4 m/min Lifting Speed Main Lift 16 m/min Number of Load Strands 1 pc Overall Height (H) 694 mm Length 422 mm Depth 268 mm Model DCM-Pro 2-80 V16/4 Control GSA Type 4 Color Azure Blue RAL 5009 Subject to mandatory inspection according to DGUV (UVV) Yes Delivery Unit 1 Gross Weight 25,000 kg Range of movement: 3 meters to the side and 2 meters forward/backward Condition: used More items - new and used - can be found in our shop! International shipping costs on request!