Used Pfeiffer Tps 600 for sale (11,551)

Condition: good (used), total length: 1,000 mm, total width: 600 mm, total height: 2,500 mm, load capacity per storage section: 150 kg, TECHNICAL DATA • Manufacturer: META • Frame height: 2,500 mm • Shelf width: 1,000 mm • Frame depth: 600 mm • Shelf load capacity: 150 kg • Number of shelves per bay: 6 • Surface: galvanized • Plug-in assembly Iijdpfx Aouk E Thjmlsf • Condition: used Large quantities available immediately. Graduated prices net per piece plus VAT: Basic bay: 1 - 5 bays: €54.00 6 - 20 bays: €52.38 21 - 50 bays: €50.76 From 51 bays: €49.14 Add-on bays: 1 - 10 bays: €39.00 11 - 25 bays: €37.83 26 - 75 bays: €36.73 From 76 bays: €35.69 Ex works Nordhorn. YOUR CONTACTS: • Tanja Henkelmann • Rainer Nürenberg • Oliver Kopp TRANSPORT & ASSEMBLY We will be happy to assist you with the transport and assembly of the goods. This item is available for collection. Delivery or shipment is possible for an additional charge. The additional costs depend on the delivery location and the scope of the shipment and can be requested individually from us. PAYMENT TERMS Payment terms will be agreed upon in the event of an order. The price is understood to be the unit price/net price or as specified in the product description (plus VAT). You will, of course, receive an invoice with VAT shown. ABOUT US DLK in Nordhorn deals in new and used products in the areas of warehouse logistics, conveyor technology, storage platforms, textile storage, and machines for retail, industry, and trades. We offer you attractive used offers from various manufacturers/brands on an ongoing basis. If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact us. Four wins – The success factors of DLK – Storage technology | Levelmaker® | Logistics | Solutions

Condition: excellent (used), Here, we offer a Pfeiffer vacuum pump station. Pfeiffer vacuum pump WKP 500 A Model PP W31 928 / X 2161 Iiedpozdqr Nefx Amljf n: 2800 1/min Oil: P 3 1.5 l S(N2): Theoretical 500 m³/h Weight: 125 kg Motor type: EELQ-8T Oerlikon Leybold SCROLLVAC SC 60 D Ultimate pressure: 0.01 mbar Motor: 3-phase, 200/400 V, 50/60 Hz Pumping speed (50 Hz): 52 m³/h Pumping speed (60 Hz): 62 m³/h Oil-free High effective pumping capacity Low ultimate pressure Low-vibration operation Type: WOD 410 B Condition: used Scope of delivery: (See picture) (Changes and errors in the technical data are subject to change!) We will gladly answer any further questions you may have by phone.

Condition: good (used), Here we offer a vacuum pump for sale. Nominal suction capacity: max. 94 m³/h Iisdpfezdqqfex Amljf Oil volume: D1 1.8L Type: UNO 90 Condition: used Scope of delivery: (vacuum pump as shown in the picture) The vacuum pump comes from the liquidation of a project. We would be happy to answer any further questions you may have by phone. Written orders can be placed by email or fax.

Condition: good (used), Here, we offer a Pfeiffer vacuum turbo pump. Pfeiffer vacuum turbo pump 1 Pfeiffer TMH 1000M P turbo-molecular pump 910 l/s, weight: 50 kg Type: TMH 1000M P Scope of delivery: (See image) 2 weeks start-up warranty Iodpfx Aezdqp Usmljif The unit comes from a warehouse liquidation. We also offer express shipping (DHL, UPS, TNT). We would be happy to answer any further questions you may have over the phone. Written orders can be placed via email or fax.

Condition: excellent (used), Vacuum pump Pfeiffer Iedpfswtcr Aox Amlsif (28648) Type UNO 012A Suction capacity 12 m3/h 220 Volt 0.55 kW Length 490 mm Width 220 mm Height 260 mm

Condition: good (used), Technical data for the pallet racking system: Racking system: SSI Schäfer Type: PR600 Technical data for installation: Number of racking rows: 01 unit Length per racking row: approx. 25,500 mm Number of bays / racking row: 09 units, each 2,700 mm Number of levels including base level: 02 units Technical data for capacity: Pallet spaces per bay: 06 units Pallet spaces per racking row: 54 units Total pallet spaces: 54 units Based on: Load carrier: Euro pallet EN 13698-1 Dimensions: 1,200 x 800 x 150 mm Overall height including pallet: n.a. Weight per pallet (max.): 500 kg Included in the scope of supply: 10x Pallet racking uprights, used Material color: Sendzimir galvanized Frame type: P215 Profile dimensions: 120 x 100 x 2.50 mm Iiodjzb U S Aspfx Amlof Incl. cross and diagonal braces, Base plates The uprights are pre-assembled (bolted frame) 2,500 mm high 1,100 mm deep 36x Pallet racking beams, used Material color: yellow Box profile: 80 x 50 mm Beam type: TRV1-270-085-30 CE Clear span: 2,700 mm Agraffe: 5 hooks Max. load per pair of beams 1,500 kg, with evenly distributed load 72x Locking pins, used Material color: Sendzimir galvanized For securing the longitudinal beams against unintentional lifting out 40x Bolt anchors, new Manufacturer: Hilti Type designation: HST2 V3 M12x105 5-25 Design: Carbon steel, galvanized Approved for: cracked concrete 20x Shims, used Design: fully galvanized For leveling the racking uprights that are installed on uneven ground 01x Load sign with information on bay and shelf loads, manufacturer and order number Dimensions: 420 x 297 x 3 mm Your contacts in our company: Mr. Andre Evering Mr. Mario Klöver Mr. Falk Deutsch General information about the item: This item is offered for pick-up only. Any additional transport or shipment of this item will incur additional costs, which can be requested separately depending on the delivery location or scope of delivery.

Condition: not inspected (used), functionality: unexamined, Pfeiffer Iijdpfxewnpq Us Amljf Type: TMH 520 No: PM P02 420 /S132 For more data see image of type plate, device is untested.

Condition: not inspected (used), functionality: unexamined, Pfeiffer Vacuum Iiedpfxswnm Nuo Amlsf Type: EVL 100 P No: PFB28701 F-No: 326090 Z 001 Type: EVL 100 P No: PFB28701 F-No: 101 For further data see the nameplate, device is untested.

Condition: not inspected (used), functionality: unexamined, Pfeiffer Vacuum Mod: Duo 65 Mod.-No: PK D46 602 Mod: ONF 035/065 D Mod.-No: PK Z40 150 For further data see the nameplate, device is untested. Iiedpfx Aswnm Tmsmlof

Condition: not inspected (used), Year of construction: 1999, functionality: unexamined, machine/vehicle number: PP W31 000/X2156 / PK D46 602 / PK Z40 150, Pfeiffer Vacuum Pumps Ijdpfowm H Sgsx Amloif Types: WKP 500 A DUO 065 D ONF 035/065 D Modules are untested.

Condition: used, Year of construction: 1966, turning diameter over bed 330 mm turning dia. in gap 400 mm turning length 600 mm centre distance 750 mm spindle turning speed range 20 - 1000 U/min spindle bore 25 mm 3-jaw chuck Röhm, Ø 200 mm dimensions of the machine ca. 2000 x 800 x 1500 mm Iiodpfx Aoxrg Atjmlef weight of the machine ca. 1200 kg Fixed bezel Turning bezel Turning center point Three-jaw chuck Röhm, Ø 200 mm, incl. inner and outer jaws Quick-change tool holder Original Multifix size B with 2 change holders Spindle brake Tailstock quill MK3 Machine feet Lathe chuck guard Chip guard Work light

Condition: used, Manufacturer: Pfeiffer Vacuum Type: Diaphragm vacuum pump Model: MVP 015-4 DC Article number: PK T05 160 Pumping capacity: 0.75 m³/h Supply voltage: 24 V DC ±10 % Isdpfjzdakiex Amljif Rated current: 3.3 A Maximum current: 6.8 A Maximum speed: 1800 min⁻¹ Weight: 4.4 kg Year of manufacture: 2021 Serial number: 28748878 Condition: used Location: Kusel

Condition: ready for operation (used), * Brand: Gebr. Pfeiffer Iiedpszakl Njfx Amlsf * Type: ball mill * Length: 4000 mm * Inner diameter: 1700 mm * Power: 110 kW e-motor * Includes: grinding balls 30–60 mm * With: rubber inner lining and protective covers * In stock: 2 units

Condition: excellent (used), The scope of delivery includes: 02x workbench stands, used Material color: Sendzimir galvanized Frame profile: 90 x 75 x 2.00 mm Stand height: 900 mm Stand depth: 600 mm Incl. cross and diagonal braces, base plates The stands are pre-assembled (bolted framework) Iodpfx Asi Ewqkomleif 04x workbench crossbeams, used Material color: RAL 7035 light gray Box profile: 80 x 40 mm Crossbeam type: TRV1-240-084-30CE Clear span: 2,400 mm 08x locking pins, new Design: fully galvanized 01x chipboard, 2nd choice, used Chipboard thickness: 38 mm Chipboard width: 2,580 mm Chipboard depth: 600 mm Surface: possibly coated (possibly in two parts) 01x chipboard, 2nd choice, used Chipboard thickness: 38 mm Chipboard width: 2,380 mm Chipboard depth: 600 mm Surface: possibly coated (possibly in two parts) 16x drilling screws, new Design: galvanized Dimensions: 6.3 x 70 mm The images are for illustrative purposes of the material. The material color may vary. The chipboards can be either coated or uncoated. - The workbenches are supplied unassembled; - The workbench stands are pre-assembled; - The production time is generally approximately 5 working days.

Condition: good (used), Technical data for pallet pull-out: Racking system: SSI Schäfer Type: PR 600 Scope of delivery includes: 01x pallet pull-out, used for rack depth: 800 mm Material colour: blue Overall depth: approx. 810 mm Overall width: approx. 1,295 mm Height: approx. 265 mm Pull-out: 100% = 740 mm Weight per unit: approx. 100 kg Your contacts at our company: Mr. Andre Evering Mr. Mario Klöver Mr. Falk Deutsch Ijdpeww Im Hofx Amlsif General information about the item: This item is offered for collection only. If transport or shipping of this item is required, extra costs will apply, which can be provided upon request based on delivery location and order scope.

Condition: good (used), Technical data of the pallet racking system: Racking system: SSI Schäfer Type: PR 600 Setup technical data: Number of rack rows: 01 pcs Length per rack row: 27,990 mm Number of compartments per rack row: 10 pcs Number of levels plus floor level: 03 pcs Volume technical data: Pallet locations per compartment: 12 pcs Pallet locations per rack row: 120 pcs Total pallet locations: 120 pcs Isdpfxoyay D Is Amleif Assumed configuration: Load carrier: Euro pallet EN 13698-1 Dimensions: 1,200 x 800 x 150 mm Total height incl. pallet: n.d. Maximum weight per pallet: 1,100 kg Scope of delivery includes: 11x pallet rack frames, used Material colour: Sendzimir galvanized Frame type: P95 Profile dimensions: 90 x 75 x 2.5 mm Including horizontal and diagonal braces, frame guards, and baseplates Frames are pre-assembled (bolted truss design) Height: 4,100 mm Depth: 1,050 mm 60x pallet rack beams, used Material colour: RAL 4002 red violet Box profile: 120 x 50 mm Beam type: TRV1-270-125-30 CE Clear span: 2,700 mm Connector: 5 HK (hooks) Max. load per pair of beams: 3,300 kg (evenly distributed load) Note: The functionality of the beams is not affected by the holes; SSI project with heat-dust plates that were bolted on as per manufacturer’s instructions! 120x safety pins, used Material colour: Sendzimir galvanized To secure the crossbeams against unintentional lifting 44x anchor bolts, new Manufacturer: Hilti Model designation: HST2 V3 M12x105 5-25 Version: carbon steel, galvanized Approved for: cracked concrete 44x shims, used Version: completely galvanized For leveling the rack frames standing on uneven ground 01x load capacity sign With specifications for bay and shelf loads, manufacturer and order number Dimensions: 420 x 297 x 3 mm Your points of contact in our company: Mr. Andre Evering Mr. Mario Klöver Mr. Falk Deutsch General information about the item: This item is offered for collection only. Any additional transport or shipping of this item is subject to extra costs, which can be requested from us separately depending on the delivery location and scope.

Year of construction: 2018, condition: new, Your contacts at our company: Mr. Andre Evering Mr. Marcel Brahms Mr. Simon Blank Here, we offer you a new post protector from the manufacturer Mecalux for purchase. The post protector is suitable for frame profile widths of up to a maximum of 120 mm. The scope of delivery includes: Iiedpfx Asd Rxyremlef 01x Post protector, new Material color: orange For stand profile width: approx. 120 mm Overall height: approx. 600 mm Overall width: approx. 132 mm Internal width: approx. 126 mm Overall depth: approx. 70 mm Deflector: approx. 55 mm Material thickness: approx. 3 mm Hole dimensions: approx. 9 x 14 mm Hole spacing (center-to-center): approx. 400 mm Weight/piece: approx. 4.298 kg 04x Hex head screw: M8 x 25 mm 04x Lock nut: M8 04x Washers: M8 Our services at a glance: (Prices on request) Assembly, installation Our general assembly conditions apply. Shelf inspection Shelf inspection according to DIN EN 15635, performed according to the requirements of BGR 234 – visual inspection for all racking systems. Delivery with our own fleet of vehicles (without unloading)

Condition: good (used), Your contacts within our company: Mr. Andre Evering Mr. Marcel Brahms Mr. Simon Blank We are offering a used post protector from the manufacturer Gemac for sale here. The post protector is suitable for a frame profile width of up to 90 mm. The scope of delivery includes: 01x Post protector, used Material color: cream white Design: V For stand profile width: approx. 90 mm Overall height: approx. 600 mm Overall width: approx. 113 mm Deflector height: approx. 60 mm Material thickness: approx. 4 mm Hole diameter: approx. 8 mm Leg dimensions: approx. 85 x 85 mm Weight / piece: approx. 4.888 kg 02x Mounting plates, used Material color: cream white Iijdpfjfdqkajx Amljf Dimensions: 130 x 91 mm (W x D) Material thickness: approx. 7 mm 04x Hex head screws: M10 x 35 mm 04x Serrated nuts: M10 04x Washers: M10 Our services at a glance: (Prices upon request) Assembly, installation Please note our general assembly conditions Shelf inspection Shelf inspection according to DIN EN 15635, performed according to the requirements of BGR 234, visual inspection for all shelving systems Delivery with our own fleet (without unloading)

Condition: good (used), We offer you a used workbench frame for sale here. Dimensions: Width: approx. 1,600 mm Height: approx. 900 mm Depth: approx. 600 mm Technical data for the workbench frame: Manufacturer: SSI Schäfer Type: PR 350/600 Included in the scope of delivery: 02x Workbench stands, used Material color: sendzimir galvanized Stand height: 900 mm Stand depth: 600 mm Incl. cross and diagonal braces, base plates The stands are pre-assembled (bolted frame) 04x Workbench crossbars, used Material color: gray Box profile: 110/140 x 50 mm Clear width: 1,400 mm 08x Locking pins, used Design: fully galvanized The images serve to illustrate the material. The material color may vary. Isdpehvmmtsfx Amljif - The workbenches are supplied disassembled; - The workbench stands are pre-assembled; - The production time is usually approx. 3 - 5 working days.

Condition: good (used), We are offering a used workbench frame for sale here. Dimensions: Width: approx. 1,600 mm Height: approx. 900 mm Depth: approx. 600 mm Technical data for the workbench frame: Manufacturer: SSI Schäfer Type: PR 350/600 Included in the scope of delivery: 02x workbench stands, used Material color: sendzimir galvanized Stand height: 900 mm Stand depth: 600 mm Incl. cross and diagonal braces, base plates Iisdjhvmnbopfx Amlof The stands are pre-assembled (bolted frame) 02x workbench crossbeams, used Material color: gray Box profile: 110/140 x 50 mm Clear width: 1,400 mm 04x locking pins, used Design: fully galvanized The images serve to illustrate the material. The material color may vary. - The workbenches are delivered unassembled; - The workbench stands are pre-assembled; - The production time is usually approx. 3 - 5 working days.

Condition: good (used), clear span: 2,700 mm, load capacity: 3,000 kg, Technical Data for Pallet Racking System: Racking System: SSI Schäfer Type: PR 600 Installation Technical Data: Number of racking rows: 01 piece Length per racking row: 16,900 mm Number of bays per row: 06 pieces at 2,700 mm each Number of levels plus ground level: 05 pieces Volume Technical Data: Pallet spaces per bay: 18 pieces Pallet spaces per row: 108 pieces Total pallet spaces: 108 pieces Assumed specifications: Loading aid: Euro pallet EN 13698-1 Dimensions: 1,200 x 800 x 150 mm Overall height incl. pallet: n/a Iijdpfx Ajx Ebrpsmlef Weight per pallet (max.): 1,000 kg Scope of supply includes: 07x pallet racking frames, used Material finish: sendzimir galvanized Frame type: P113 Profile dimensions: 100 x 100 x 2 mm Including horizontal and diagonal bracing, frame protectors and base plates Frames are pre-assembled (bolted truss structure) Height: 8,000 mm Depth: 1,100 mm 60x pallet racking beams, used Material finish: RAL 4002 red violet Box profile: 120 x 50 mm Beam type: TRV1-270-125-30 CE Clear span: 2,700 mm Bracket: 5 HK (Hooks) Maximum load per pair of beams: 3,000 kg (uniformly distributed load) Note: The functionality of the beams is ensured despite the holes SSI project with heat dust shields that, according to the manufacturer's information, were bolted on! 120x Safety pins, used Material finish: sendzimir galvanized For securing the cross beams against unintentional lifting 28x expansion anchors, new Manufacturer: Hilti Model: HST2 V3 M12x105 5-25 Design: Carbon steel, galvanized Approved for: cracked concrete 14x leveling plates, used Design: completely galvanized For leveling the frames installed on uneven floors 01x Load sign With specifications for bay and compartment loads, manufacturer and commission number Dimensions: 420 x 297 x 3 mm Your contacts in our company: Mr. Andre Evering Mr. Mario Klöver Mr. Falk Deutsch General information about the item: This item is only available for collection. Any additional transport or shipment of this item is subject to extra costs, which can be requested separately from us depending on the place of delivery and scope of delivery.

Condition: good (used), Technical Data of the Pallet Racking System: Racking system: SSI Schäfer Type: PR 600 Technical Data of the Installation: Number of racking rows: 01 pcs Length per row: 22,500 mm Iisdpfx Aeyaxmhjmlef Number of bays per row: 08 pcs Number of levels incl. ground level: 02 pcs Volume Specifications: Pallet spaces per bay: 09 pcs Pallet spaces per row: 72 pcs Total pallet spaces: 72 pcs Based on: Load carrier: Euro-pallet EN 13698-1 Dimensions: 1,200 x 800 x 150 mm Total height incl. pallet: n.d. Max. weight per pallet: 1,100 kg Scope of delivery includes: 09x pallet rack uprights, used Material finish: Sendzimir galvanized Upright type: P113 Profile dimensions: 100 x 100 x 2 mm Incl. horizontal and diagonal braces, upright protectors and foot plates The uprights are pre-assembled (bolted truss construction) Height: 4,000 mm Depth: 1,100 mm 32x beam pairs, used Material finish: RAL 4002 red violet Box profile: 120 x 50 mm Beam type: TRV1-270-125-30 CE Clear span: 2,700 mm Connector: 5-hook Max. load per beam pair: 3,300 kg (with evenly distributed load) Note: The load-bearing capacity of the beams remains functional despite the holes— SSI project with thermal dust panels as per manufacturer's specifications screwed on! 64x safety pins, used Material finish: Sendzimir galvanized For securing the longitudinal beams against accidental lifting 36x anchor bolts, new Manufacturer: Hilti Type: HST2 V3 M12x105 5-25 Design: Carbon steel, galvanized Approved for: cracked concrete 18x levelling plates, used Design: fully galvanized For levelling uprights standing on uneven floors 01x load capacity sign With information on bay and compartment loads, manufacturer and order number Dimensions: 420 x 297 x 3 mm Your contacts in our company: Mr. Andre Evering Mr. Mario Klöver Mr. Falk Deutsch General information on the item: This item is only available for collection. Any requested transport or shipment of this item will incur additional costs, which can be requested separately from us depending on delivery location and scope.

Condition: good (used), Technical data for the pallet racking system: Racking system: SSI Schäfer Type: PR 600 Technical data for the setup: Number of racking rows: 01 unit Length per racking row: 14,040 mm Number of bays per row: 05 units Number of levels plus ground level: 02 units Volume data: Pallet locations per bay: 09 units Pallet locations per row: 45 units Total pallet locations: 45 units Assumptions: Load carrier: Euro pallet EN 13698-1 Dimensions: 1,200 x 800 x 150 mm Total height incl. pallet: n.d. Maximum pallet weight: 1,100 kg Scope of delivery includes: 06x pallet racking frames, used Material finish: Sendzimir galvanized Frame type: P73 Profile dimensions: 90 x 75 x 2.5 mm Incl. horizontal and diagonal bracing, frame protectors, and base plates Frames are pre-assembled (bolted truss design) Height: 3,600 mm Depth: 1,050 mm 20x pallet racking beams, used Material color: RAL 4002 red violet Box profile: 120 x 50 mm Beam type: TRV1-270-125-30 CE Clear span: 2,700 mm Connector: 5 HK (hooks) Maximum load per pair of beams: 3,300 kg, with evenly distributed load Note: Functionality of the beams is ensured despite holes (SSI project with heat protection plates bolted as per manufacturer’s specifications) 40x safety pins, used Material finish: Sendzimir galvanized For securing the longitudinal beams against unintended lifting 24x wedge anchors, new Manufacturer: Hilti Iisdpfx Asyapf Ijmlof Type: HST2 V3 M12x105 5-25 Material: Carbon steel, galvanized Approved for: Cracked concrete 12x shims, used Material: fully galvanized For leveling racking frames placed on uneven floors 01x load sign With specification of bay and shelf loads, manufacturer, and order number Dimensions: 420 x 297 x 3 mm Your contacts at our company: Mr. Andre Evering Mr. Mario Klöver Mr. Falk Deutsch General information about the item: This item is only offered for collection. Additional transport or shipping of this item is subject to extra costs, which can be quoted separately depending on delivery location and scope of delivery.

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2013, overall weight: 220 kg, chuck outer diameter: 600 mm, Metal cutting Tooling Iisdpfx Amey T Ik Rjlef TDG Spain - 4-600 MACH-ID 9627 Make: TDG Spain Type: 4-600 Year: 2013 Diameter: 600mm 4 chuck: yes Max. speed:970Rpm Length: 1200mm Width: 800mm Height: 400mm Weight: 220kg Please Note: The information on this page has been obtained to the best of our ability and belief, and from the manufacturers where possible. It is given in good faith, but its accuracy can not be guaranteed. Accordingly, it will not form a representation or constitute contractual terms. We advise you to check any vital details!

Condition: good (used), Opportunity: 2x Pfeiffer Classic 590 available! Price: EUR 99.500/piece. Configuration Coater 1: 2x Pfeiffer TPH 2301 (2300ls) completely overhauled Iisdpfx Amshwv Tfslsf Pfeiffer DCU 600 2x VAT Throttle Valve 64048-pe48-ads2/0001 1x Pfeiffer PKR251 fullrange sensor Pfeiffer TPR280 for prevacuum Pfeiffer DUO 120 prepump (120m3/h) Vacuumchamber: for substrate size round 840mm incl shielding and spare shielding set 2x viewport Several feedthroughs Rotating feedthrough incl thermocouple Infrared heater Watermanifold plus valves Vacuumvalves for venting-pumpdown etc Notes: Currently used for Resistance Evaporation (no boats available) Current PLC and E-cabinet is removed due to IP. However: if required our company Orange Thin Films can do a complete refurbishment with Labview automation and new processes (such as Eeam-Sputtering-Evaporation etc) Configuration Coater 2: 2x Pfeiffer TPH 2201 s p c (horizontal turbo 2200ls) completely overhauled Pfeiffer DCU 600 2x VAT Throttle Valve 64048-pe48-ads2/0001 1x Pfeiffer PKR251 fullrange sensor Pfeiffer TPR280 for prevacuum Pfeiffer DUO 120 prepump (120m3/h) Vacuumchamber: for substrate size round 840mm incl shielding and spare shielding set 2x viewport Several feedthroughs Rotating feedthrough incl thermocouple Infrared heater Watermanifold plus valves Vacuumvalves for venting-pumpdown etc Notes: Current used for Resistance Evaporation (no boats available) Current PLC and E-cabinet is removed due to IP. However: if required our company Orange Thin Films can do a complete refurbishment with Labview automation and new processes (such as Eeam-Sputtering-Evaporation etc)