Used Scm Front-Loading Panel Saws for sale (48,184)

Condition: new, Holzkraft L invincibile si 3 BLADE OFF sliding table saw Prodpfx Aev Nhg Sodzoa BLADE OFF safety system - exhibition machine- ----- Technical specifications ----- Supply voltage: 400 V, Mains frequency: 50 Hz, Scoring motor power: 1.3 kW, Drive motor power: 9.0 kW, Format sliding table length: 3200 mm, Format sliding table width: 360 mm, Table length: 1040 mm, Table width: 630 mm, Cutting width with parallel stop: 1500 mm, Max. cutting width to the left of the sawblade: 3200 mm, Trimming length: 3200 mm, Sawblade inclination: 90 - 45°, Max. cutting height 90° with 400 mm sawblade: 120 mm, Max. cutting height 45° With 400 mm saw blade: 89 mm, Saw blade speed: 3000 - 5000 rpm, Scoring saw blade diameter: 120 mm, Scoring saw blade speed: 8500 rpm, Length approx.: 7250 mm, Width/Depth approx.: 4460 mm, Height approx.: 1770 mm, Net weight approx.: 1307 kg, Extraction nozzle diameter: 100 and 120 mm The BLADE OFF system detects potential hazardous situations early and prevents them by retracting the saw blade into the machine table in a fraction of a second. With the help of sensors, the system is able to distinguish between the workpiece and the operator. An LED light in the saw blade guard indicates with a green light whether the safety system is active. Controlled via the 15" eye-S control console. Connection to the SCM Thundercut (optimizer/sequence control app) is possible. Three longitudinal stops with integrated digital displays. Electrically adjustable parallel stop. Start/stop buttons for the main and scoring saw blades integrated in the sliding carriage. Special guides and an innovative curved grinding system enable the edger carriage to have a fourfold higher load capacity. Ball-bearing telescopic arm ensures greater stability and smoother workpiece guidance. Equipment Two-axis scoring unit with automatic positioning Anodized aluminum sliding table On/off switch on the sliding table for the main and scoring sawblade motors Trimming frame with angle-adjustable aluminum telescopic stop Material roll on the trimming frame Motorized saw parallel stop via control panel Three longitudinal stops with integrated digital displays Eccentric clamp Control of sawblade height, tilt, and parallel stop Pivoting control panel on top Table extension Table extension Sawblade pendulum protection - new exhibition machine -

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2015, With the Hugo, you can lift stacks one at a time. Pedpfozmp T Rox Adzsra It is an electrically powered lift truck or stacking/positioning truck used for ergonomic material handling at panel cutting saws or other machines.

Condition: good (used), functionality: fully functional, Technical specifications: Manufacturer: Striebig Type: Standard II Plus 6220A Year of manufacture: 5.92 Feed: manual Prsdswdig Ispfx Adzja Design: automatically adjustable aluminum slatted frame Saw carriage lock: manual Saw unit plunge-cut: manual Swivel adjustment from 0 to 90°: manual Motor power: 4.4 kW Cutting area: 5600 × 2200 × 80 mm Speed: 4750 rpm Saw blade diameter: 300 mm Space required: L × H × W 6400 × 2900 × 1600 Condition: good (all ball bearings new, red plastic strips new) Location: Warehouse Installation: Wall-mounted, freestanding A forklift is available for loading. Installation and delivery available upon request.

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2006, functionality: fully functional, input voltage: 400 V, input frequency: 50 Hz, type of input current: three-phase, cutting height (max.): 360 mm, cutting width (max.): 580 mm, Equipment: CE marking, documentation/manual, – CE certificate – Operating manual – Italian production – Year of manufacture: 2006 TECHNICAL PARAMETERS: – Diameter of guide wheels: Ø 600 mm – Cutting height: max. 360 mm – Cutting width: max. 580 mm – Table dimensions (L/W): 800 x 585 mm – Saw table tilt: 0° - 20° – Minimum blade/bandsaw length: 4480 mm – Minimum blade/bandsaw width: 10 mm – Maximum blade/bandsaw length: 4580 mm – Maximum blade/bandsaw width: 35 mm – Flywheel speed: 715 rpm – Motor power: 2.2 kW / 400 V / 50 Hz – Extraction port diameter: 100 mm – Machine dimensions (L/W/H): 1120 / 800 / 2200 mm Prjdpfx Aoy El U Djdzoa – Weight: ~300 kg

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2006, with automatic lifting table feeding system with 4 precision spindles, ensuring the stack is always held evenly at the correct level. Equipped with 4 powered roller groups. Lifting table dimensions: 6000 x 2200 mm. Feeding side: left (from the operator's perspective). Max. stack height: 450 mm. Lifting table height (bottom): to be defined. Speed for lifting and lowering: 0.7 m/min. Lifting table drive: 3 kW. Powered roller group: 4. STANDARD CONFIGURATION. Usable cutting length: 6000 mm. Lifting table feeding: Yes. Working height: 950 mm. Saw blade overhang: 100 mm. Clamping device opening: 117 mm. Machine control: G Drive RT. Number of clamping devices movable in X: 1. Number of clamping devices movable in X and Y: 1. Number of fixed clamping devices: 1. Min. material thickness (with side alignment): 10 mm. Min. material thickness (with lifting table feeding): 10 mm. Min. panel dimension (with lifting table feeding): 2400x1200 mm. Max. panel dimension (with lifting table feeding): 5500x2070 mm. Max. panel dimension (without lifting table feeding): 5800x2010 mm. Safety device according to CE: included. Supply voltage: 400 V / 50 Hz. MACHINE CONFIGURATION. Machine bed: The machine bed structure made of steel is welded using arc welding and then milled and finished on CNC machines. The rigid structure of the machine bed guarantees both high cutting quality with high cutting speed, as well as the enormous durability of the entire machine. Saw blade overhang: 100 mm. Power of main saw motor: 7.5 kW. Power of scoring saw motor: 2.2 kW. Diameter of main saw blade: 400 mm. Diameter of scoring saw blade: 215 mm. Feed rate of saw carriage: Forward: 1-170 m/min. Return: 170 m/min. Motorization of saw carriage feed: Servo drive. Diameter of dust extraction port (bottom, 1x): 200 mm. Diameter of dust extraction port (top, 2x): 115 mm. Thanks to the rigid machine bed construction, the masses are distributed in the best possible way, which prevents twisting and thus guarantees an absolutely vertical run of the saw blade. Machine table made of steel with individual, removable support elements made of high-quality, durable material. The saw carriage runs on two round guides, which are mounted horizontally on one level. Large prism rollers (diameter 86 mm), with spring-loaded counter rollers, ensure smooth linear feed, as well as very low contact pressure and enables virtually wear-free operation of the saw carriage. The weight and forces acting on the saw carriage are evenly distributed on the two guides (50/50) and on each individual prism roller. The saw carriage runs absolutely without lubricant on the guides. The two guides are located away from the cutting line, outside the direct dust area. The diameter of the guide rods is 40 mm, making them the largest and most stable guides used in this sector. Pneumatic quick clamping system; for quick and convenient tool changes. This system is extremely reliable in operation, as it is mechanically clamped via a flange with a bayonet lock and spring force and unlocked via a pneumatic quick coupling. The flange must be rotated by approx. 10° in order to remove it. Due to excellent accessibility and the fact that the operator does not need any other tools, the tool change is very easy and can be carried out in seconds. The scoring saw adjustment is made from the outside. Prodpfxjzn N Iko Adzsa

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 2008, functionality: fully functional, overall weight: 1,900 kg, For sale: a very well-maintained Martin T74 panel saw. Features a touch-screen control panel, 5.7 inches. Cutting angle, height, and width are controlled electronically. Motor: 5.5 kW. Saw blade change: quick-change system PRO Lock. No scoring saw. Slider length: 3000 mm. Max. saw blade diameter: 500 mm. Max. cutting height: 170 mm. Cutting width with fence: up to 1,100 mm. Saw blades up to 400 mm in diameter can be fully lowered below the table surface. Pjdpfszrmhijx Adzera Weight: 1,900 kg. Technical data sheet is available in the machine images (last image).

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 2010, Striebig Panel Saw Compact 5220, Year of Manufacture 2010 Robust, self-supporting, firmly welded, and torsion-resistant saw frame Stable, durable saw beam steel construction Robust bearing of the motor carriage ensures high cutting accuracy Powerful, low-vibration 3.9 kW motor (5.3 HP) TRK dust extraction system Automatically adjusting aluminum slat grid with plastic supports Device for wall mounting Ball-bearing support rollers Split center support at optimal working height, with aluminum grid Integrated small parts support made of wood Supersilent sound insulation to reduce saw blade noise Electromagnetic motor brake Saw weight approx. 910 kg Cutting depth 60 mm Saw motor power 3.9 kW (5.3 HP) Saw blade diameter 250 mm Saw blade bore 30 mm *1 Emission sound pressure level at the workplace LpA 82 dB *2 Saw blade speed 5250 rpm 2 dust extraction ports ø 100 mm Psdpfxozhx A Rs Adzsra Connection value 4.8 kW Mains connection 3 x 400 V / 50 Hz Cutting range: L: 4600; Hvertical: 2200 mm, Hhorizontal: 2100 mm Equipment: - Compact 5220 - Strip fence - Mechanically braked support rollers - Freestanding support complete Location: Available from stock in 54634 Bitburg - immediately available -

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2021, functionality: fully functional, Format panel saw / table saw Format4 Kappa 550 by Felder, purchased on May 26, 2021, for precise longitudinal, transverse, and miter cuts in wood and panel materials. Professional saw for carpentry, interior design, and workshop use. Key technical data: - Machine type: Format panel saw / table saw - Saw blade diameter: 250–550 mm - Max. cutting height: approx. 202 mm at 90° / approx. 140 mm at 45° Prodezuywiopfx Adzja - Swivel range of saw unit: 0°–46° - Cutting width: approx. 1000 / 1250 / 1600 mm, depending on the model - Cutting length: approx. 2200–3700 mm, depending on the model - Speeds: 3000 / 4000 / 5000 rpm, optionally continuously variable 2000–6000 rpm - Motor power: approx. 7.5 kW, optionally higher depending on the configuration - Precise format table for repeatable, accurate cuts - Suitable for solid wood, panel materials, and dimensionally accurate furniture / interior design work - Core machine for professional woodworking shops, carpentry shops, training workshops, and makerspaces No warranty

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2021, Format4 Kappa V60 vertical panel saw by Felder, purchased on May 26, 2021, for precise cutting of panel material in the wood workshop. Suitable for large-format wood, wood-based materials, and coated panels with minimal space requirements. Key technical data: - Cutting depth: Maximum 60 mm - Cutting height: 2200 mm vertically, or approx. 2080 mm horizontally Prjdpfx Ajzulpqedzea - Cutting length: standard 3200 mm or 4200 mm, optionally extendable to 5300 mm or 6080 mm - Motor power: 4.0 kW / 5.5 hp - Saw blade: Ø 250 mm at 5300 rpm, optionally with stepless speed control 2000–6000 rpm - Dust extraction: 2x 100 mm connections - Weight: approx. 910 kg, depending on the model - Vertical design for space-saving cutting of large panels - Precise horizontal and vertical cuts for panel materials - Particularly interesting for carpentry shops, makerspaces, training workshops, and companies with regular panel cutting requirements No warranty.

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 2004, machine/vehicle number: 0-240-14-3022, functionality: fully functional, cutting width (max.): 5,600 mm, saw blade diameter: 450 mm, cutting length (max.): 5,600 mm, stack height: 580 mm, TECHNICAL DETAILS Prodpfxozhm Rij Adzja Maximum cutting length: 5,600 mm Maximum cutting width: 5,600 mm Maximum panel dimensions with rear loading using a lifting platform: 5,600 mm x 2,240 mm Maximum stack weight on the platform: 10 tons Maximum stack height: 580 mm Saw blade projection: 125 mm Saw blade diameter: 450 mm Saw carriage feed rate during cutting: 5 to 150 m/min Saw carriage return feed rate: 150 m/min Program slider feed rate: 80 m/min Number of clamping devices: 9 Spacing of clamping devices: 75 mm / 275 mm / 475 mm / 1,075 mm / 1,775 mm / 2,475 mm / 3,275 mm / 4,075 mm / 4,875 mm MACHINE DETAILS Connected power of the main saw motor: 13.5 kW Connected power of the scoring saw: 2.2 kW Voltage: 400 V Frequency: 50 Hz Phases: 3 Air cushion tables: 5 units, each 2,810 mm x 650 mm Control system: CAD-matic 4.0

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 2008, Striebig Panel Saw Compact 5220, Year of Manufacture: 12/2008 Solid, self-supporting, firmly welded saw frame with high torsional rigidity Stable, durable saw beam steel construction Robust mounting of the motor carriage ensures high cutting accuracy Powerful, low-vibration 3.0 kW motor (S1) TRK dust extraction system Automatically adjusting aluminum slat grid with plastic supports Device for wall mounting Ball-bearing support rollers Split center support at optimal working height, with aluminum grid Integrated small parts support made of wood Prjdpfx Ajzp Nt Aodzja Supersilent sound insulation to reduce saw blade noise Electromagnetic motor brake Saw weight approx. 910 kg Cutting depth 60 mm Saw motor power 3.9 kW (5.3 HP) Saw blade diameter 250 mm Saw blade bore 30 mm *1 Emission sound pressure level at the workplace LpA 82 dB *2 Saw blade speed 5250 rpm 2 dust extraction ports ø 100 mm Connection value 4.8 kW Mains connection 3 x 400 V / 50 Hz Cutting range: L: 4600; H vertical: 2200 mm, H horizontal: 2100 mm Equipment: - Compact 5220 - Freestanding support, complete Location: Available from warehouse 54634 Bitburg - immediately available -

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 1998, STRIEBIG panel saw, vertical, model II TRK 5220A, with Nestro NE 160 dust extraction unit. Used, in working condition, and in good condition. Panel saw: Year of manufacture: 01/1998 Type: Standard II TRK 5220A Saw carriage locking: manual Plunge cutting: manual Swivel adjustment 0 to 90°: manual Motor power: 4.4 kW Speed: 4750 rpm Saw blade diameter: 300 mm Panel saw dimensions: Length: 5030 mm Height: 2500 mm Depth: 430 mm The panel saw and the dust extraction unit must be disassembled by the buyer. Dust extraction unit Nestro NE 160 Three-phase power, 2.2 kW Filter area: 11.5 m² Collection tank volume: 185 liters Extraction nozzle diameter: 160 mm Nominal volumetric flow rate: 1780 m³/h Dimensions approx. 130 x 85 x 193 cm Price: €12,000 net Podpfx Aozvqryedzsra Delivery and installation possible.

Condition: ready for operation (used), functionality: fully functional, power: 2.21 kW (3.00 HP), input voltage: 380 V, cutting width (max.): 900 mm, saw blade diameter: 300 mm, DeWalt radial arm saw for wood, light metals, and plastics, with a 300 mm saw blade, 3 HP (380 V three-phase), adjustable and tiltable. The motor-saw blade unit moves 900 mm along the upper arm, which is height-adjustable and can be swiveled to the left and right. Used, fully functional machine, including base. Prjdpfxjzl Hfus Adzea

Condition: new, Year of construction: 2024, ALL ALTENDORF F25 TYPES READY ON STOCK! manual hight and Stilding adjustment for saw aggregate 0 – 46° digital display for saw blade height and tilting angle motor 5,5 kW saw blade speed 3600/ 4200 U/min. sliding table length 3200 mm angular fence for cutting length up to 3450 mm prearrangement for retrofitting of scoring unit saw blade DM max. 315 mm max. cutting height 104 mm max. cutting height at 45° = 70 mm working height 880 mm Pedpog Dgr Hjfx Adzjra Advise used machines: • Technical data without obligation, mistake and intermediate sale reserve. • Price is considered ex-location price • All articles or machines are bought as seen without any entitlement on warranty. • It is left to the choice of the buyer to view the machines before at its location. • Special arrangements are possible but only valid in written form. (We answer your inquiries only with stated address + telephone number!)

Condition: like new (used), functionality: fully functional, Panel Dividing System SCHEER FM 16 – DNC 3100 x 3100 As New – Machine No. 33542 The SCHEER FM 16 is a high-performance, electronically controlled panel dividing saw featuring advanced drive technology and an intuitive control interface. The machine has been fully overhauled and newly painted – its condition is virtually as new. Ideal for precise, automated cutting of wood-based panels in continuous industrial operation. Main Technical Data: • Cutting length: 3100 mm • Cutting depth / Blade projection: 80 mm • Saw motor: 7.0 kW • Scoring motor: 1.1 kW (can be switched off) • Feed speed: 2 – 40 m/min (steplessly adjustable) • Return: Rapid traverse, automatic lowering • Operator interface: SCHEERWIN, graphical, document-oriented (64-bit) on Windows 10 • Drive system: Küenle frequency inverter with Stöber synchronous servo drives incl. absolute encoder – for highest positioning accuracy and dynamic control Features & Highlights: • FM 16-3100 longitudinal cutting saw with hardened guides and automatic forward/reverse travel • HP 5021 material feed table with 6 clamping carriages, servo drive & measuring resolution of 0.05 mm • WP angular pressure system, 2400 mm adjustment range, fully automatic • SP 5000 remnant cutting device for offcuts down to min. 5 mm • HP 5024 miter fence table (1800 x 800 mm), steel angle with Pertinax overlay • HP 5025 workpiece support table (1800 x 800 mm), also with Pertinax overlay • Air cushion system in the front tables, including radial fan Saw blades included: Podpfx Asunwk Todzera • KSB 4005 for main saw (ø 305 mm, Z = 60) • KSB 4006 for scorer (ø 200 mm) Condition & Service: • Condition: Overhauled & as new • Functionality: Fully operational • Warranty: 12 months Reliability in Continuous Operation: This machine is in use worldwide – even under extreme conditions. Whether in the dry climates of Africa or the humid environments of Southeast Asia (e.g., Thailand), the SCHEER FM 16 operates reliably in 3-shift systems – 365 days a year – and stands out for its superior precision, stability, and durability. Warranty: We are so confident in the quality and robustness of our machines that we offer a 7-year warranty on the machine frame and guideways. (Excludes electrical supplier components and wear parts.) Flexibility & Customization: We offer various models and equipment options – to fit every budget. We also realize custom tailored solutions based on your individual requirements. 📞 Contact us for an individual offer or to arrange a viewing appointment. Machine available from stock. Delivery, commissioning and training optionally available.

Condition: used, Second-hand Kalmar DC 4.5-500 diesel front-loading forklift truck for internal material handling and loading and unloading in warehouse and production areas. The machine has a lifting capacity of 4,500 kg, a fork length of 1,600 mm and a lift height of 4,000 mm. Suitable for a wide range of applications in warehouse operations. Technical data: - Lifting capacity: 4,500 kg - Fork length: 1,600 mm - Lifting height: 4,000 mm - Fork adjustment: Hydraulic Pedpezw E N Njfx Adzora - Hours on the clock: 7,384 h

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2021, Vertical panel dividing saw Manufacturer: Felder Format4 Type: Kappa V80 Year of manufacture: 2021 Technical data Saw unit Motor with 5.5 kW power Saw blade diameter: 300 mm Cutting depth: 80 mm Cutting length: 5300 mm Podpfezuy Dvsx Adzera Cutting height: 2200 mm Maximum horizontal cut: 2080 mm Note: The technical data and descriptions are copies of the original order confirmation. The information is provided for informational purposes only and is not binding.

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2017, machine/vehicle number: 521.111, functionality: fully functional, input voltage: 400 V, input current: 51 A, input frequency: 50 Hz, type of input current: three-phase, cutting width (max.): 3,300 mm, saw blade diameter: 360 mm, Equipment: saw blade guard, For sale: a professional and efficient IMA Schelling FH 4 330 panel saw. The machine is used in a custom furniture manufacturing facility. It is regularly serviced and ready for immediate operation. It is used for cutting chipboard, MDF boards, and kitchen countertops. Key information and technical condition: Predpfxjzvyggs Adzja Year of manufacture: 2017 Power: 18kW Power supply: 400V (3 phases) 50Hz Condition: good, in continuous operation Usage history: the saw has been operated in a single-shift mode, 8 hours per day.

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 2010, Sawblade tiltable 46 ° Length of the rolling table 3000 mm Predpfx Ajzu Tlaodzsa cutting width 1300 mm Motor output 5,5 kW Cutting height 204 mm Saw blade diameter 550 mm Speed 2000-6000 U/min. weight of the machine ca. 1300 kg

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2021, - Cutting width: 1250 mm - Cutting length: 2800 mm Panel saw Manufacturer: Felder Format4 Type: Kappa 550 Year of manufacture: 2021 Technical data - Saw blade: 250 - 550 mm - Cutting height: 202 mm (90°), 140 mm (45°) - 3 speeds: 3000/4000/5000 RPM - Cutting width: 1250 mm - Cutting length: 2800 mm - Control system: Kappa 550 e-motion - Surface area of the extension table: 1250 x 650 mm - Telescopic fence allows for crosscuts up to 3200 mm - The crosscut fence can be swivelled from 90° to 45° Podpfx Adozuy A Eozjra - Circular saw extension of 1200 mm behind the saw blade axis - The positioning of the parallel fence is done electronically via a ball screw integrated dust-free into the circular saw table Note: The technical data and descriptions are copies of the original order confirmation. The information is provided for informational purposes only and is not binding.

Condition: used, Panel saw, panel dividing saw, horizontal panel circular saw, dividing saw -Motor power: 6 kW -Speed: 2880 rpm -Diameter max. Saw blade: 340 mm -Cutting height: 100 mm -Saw motor laterally adjustable on dovetail guide: approx. 1000 mm -Saw motor pneumatically adjustable in height -with cleaning brush: 1000 mm wide -Max. Intermediate width: 1700 mm Prodpsb R Addjfx Adzea -Dimensions: 2200/1500/H2100 mm -Weight: 1220 kg

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2019, - Cutting length: 4300 mm - Cutting width: 4300 mm - Main motor: 9 kW Panel dividing saw Manufacturer: Otto Meyer Type: PS80P Year of manufacture: 2019 Technical data - Cutting length: 4300 mm - Cutting width: 4300 mm - Main motor: 9 kW - Optimized feed speeds of the main saw thanks to an additional frequency converter - Label printer Prjdpezuy Dpjfx Adzoa - Automatic electronic clamp detection for recognizing the panel corners Note: The technical data and descriptions are a verbatim copy of the original order confirmation. The data is for informational purposes only and is not binding.

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2008, BÖSCH/HEWEMA universal miter fence A97 for panel saws When in the closed position, 90° angle cuts are performed. When adjusting the cutting angle, the two fence profiles are moved synchronously. Cuts can be made on both the front and rear supports. Prsdpfx Adszbytlezja The saw angle is read on the scale disc.

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2010, power: 30 kW (40.79 HP), cutting width (max.): 3,800 mm, controller model: POWERCONTROL, cutting length (max.): 2,200 mm, Equipment: scorer, TECHNICAL DETAILS Max. panel width: 3,800 mm Max. panel length: 2,200 mm Min. cutting height: 6 mm Max. saw blade overhang: 130 mm Number of tables: 3 Number of grippers: 7 Gripper arrangement: On the sliding stop Max. feed rate: 90 m/min Sawing unit Number of saw carriages: 1 Positioning: NC-controlled Max. tool diameter: 480 mm Motor power: 18 kW Scoring unit Positioning: NC-controlled Max. tool diameter: 200 mm Motor power: 2.2 kW MACHINE DETAILS Control system: POWERCONTROL Machine programming software: CADMATIC 4 Total connected load: 30 kW EQUIPMENT CE marking Barcode label printer Pjdpfx Ajzmtnlsdzora The machine is sold and delivered in its actual and legal condition ("as is, where is") based on photo documentation and technical/commercial documents with a descriptive nature. The buyer has the right to inspect the goods before collection and assumes responsibility for the installation, securing, and use of the machine at the destination. External reference: 7875

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 1990, Panel saw Manufacturer: Striebig Type: standard 6220A XYI/G Year of manufacture: 1990 Cutting length: 5,300 mm Cutting height: 2,200 mm Pjdpfxszrt Hfs Adzera Cutting depth: 80 mm Power: 4.4 kW Speed: 4,750 mm Wall mounting Supports for free-standing installation can be purchased as an option.