Used Duplo 5000 for sale (2,291)

Condition: used, FAS roller conveyors 3000-710-650 RA2403 Ndodpfx Aewf Nftjbysc Further information Manufacturer: FAS Type: Roller conveyor Year of manufacture: unknown Condition: good (used) Available conveyor lengths (FL): 3000 mm, 5000 mm, 6000 mm, 7000 mm, 8000 mm, 9000 mm, 10000 mm, 11000 mm, 12000 mm, 13000 mm, 14000 mm, 15000 mm, 16000 mm, 17000 mm, 18000 mm, 19000 mm, 20000 mm, 21000 mm Roller width (RB): 650 mm Nominal/outer width (NB): 710 mm Roller pitch: 62,5-125 mm variable Drive types: center drive Gewicht Fördergut: bis 30 kg Optionally available e.g: frequency inverter for steples speed control Supports Side guides Price: net plus VAT ex central warehouse Dr. Sonntag GmbH & Co. KG 97076 Würzburg For individual, professional advice, simply contact us. Simply contact us by phone or e-mail. We will be happy to help you with the planning and implementation of your projects. We look forward to hearing from you. With kind regards Your team at Dr. Sonntag GmbH & Co. KG Your specialist and contact for intralogistics

Condition: new, functionality: fully functional, Year of construction: 2025, load capacity: 5,000 kg, fork thickness: 80 mm, fork width: 180 mm, Telescopic crane Ndsdeiuh I Aspfx Abyjc 5000 kg at a load center of 600 mm Telescopic length at the hook: 3600 mm with a useful load of 950 kg Load capacity at the load centers, see load diagram One swivel hook with a useful load of 5000 kg, with shackle One swivel hook with a useful load of 3000 kg, with shackle Height adjustable via a grid system Galvanized bolts secured with a cable Entry pockets for forklift forks up to 180 x 80 mm Safety chain to prevent the crane from slipping

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 2005, Used cutting machine Lectra Vector 5000 Fashion V3 - year 2005 - Useful cutting width 180 cm. - translating - new inverter device - in good condition. Ndodpfortnccsx Abyec

Condition: new, functionality: fully functional, Year of construction: 2025, control type: PLC-controlled, actuation type: electric, pipe diameter (max.): 54 mm, pipe length (max.): 6,000 mm, tube wall thickness (max.): 4 mm, bending angle (max.): 195 °, bending radius (max.): 250 mm, bending radius (min.): 9 mm, pressure (max.): 250 bar, warranty duration: 24 months, Equipment: CE marking, centralized greasing system, emergency stop, foot remote control, quick-change device, THE ECONOMICAL BENDING MACHINE FOR TIGHT BENDING RADII: The bending machine with free-standing bending head can be easily converted to right and left bending for difficult geometries. The plug-in bending tools allow quick conversion to other tube sizes. Fast hydraulics to shorten non-productive times is an important factor for series production. The clamping pressure for tube clamping can be optimally adjusted. The PLC control (arbitrarily expandable via USB stick) with data memory and latest X2X interface, can accommodate an almost unlimited number of programs for bending angle, linear dimension and twisting angle for max. 50 bending sequences on one tube length. A freely programmable database for up to 200 materials is available for monitoring springback values. The machine has 2 operating modes: In "Simple Bending", the length and twist of the bends relative to each other are automatically displayed. In the "Controlled bending" mode, the data is stored beforehand and a permanent target/actual comparison is performed during bending. This excludes incorrect positioning within a tolerance window and thus minimizes the user-related error rate. General error messages are displayed on the large screen with full text. The mandrel retraction is programmable and can be retracted automatically ahead of time when the bending angle is reached. The compact drive unit with the detachable mandrel carrier offers advantages for use at the assembly site as well as for special designs with a very large tube feed and is also available as a stationary variant with a tidy system for tools and mandrel bars. The low-cost alternative to the fully controlled CNC machine. POSSIBLE APPLICATIONS: Hydraulic piping Pipeline construction Plant construction, e.g. chemical industry Metal construction Sample construction Technical data: Bending capacity Ø 6 to 50 x 4 mm depending on material bending radius min/max: 10 mm/140 mm Bending radius min: 1,5 x Ø (standard 2 x Ø) Multifunctional machine control Bending angle adjustment (0.1°) Mandrel beam lengths 1500/3000/4500/6000 mm (special version also longer) Maximum 180º bending result Weight 600-700 kg (depending on version) Ergonomic operation via safety foot switch OPTIONAL ACCESSORIES: Automatic mandrel lubrication (minimum quantity) Pneumatic or hydraulic quick-action chuck Positioning of length and torsion via automatic brake function or via manual stops by foot switch Semi-automatic positioning of length and rotation via servo motors Pneumatic rotation stop Pipe calculation software Laser-supported tool monitoring for monitoring the tool tension 10 inch touch screen with integrated tube calculation Bending radius up to 250 mm Data transfer via cable (LAN), wireless (WLAN) or USB OUR SERVICE: - Welcome to the test production in our house in the demo room - Consultation and information meeting at your site - Consultation and handling as leasing/financing-purchase via the company JUTEC - Service contracts, maintenance at your site Nedpfondn Agsx Abysdc

Condition: excellent (used), Block press horizontal 5000 mm length 800 mm width 12 cylinders 5 hold downs Ndjdpfxjl D T D Ee Abyec

Condition: new, Year of construction: 2025, Dimensions (L/W/H) 2100x920x2250 mm Weight 410 kg Total power requirement 5,5 kw Nsdpfxjvz Erio Abysdc

Condition: used, OMNIFLO Overhead conveyor system Linear guide Transport Schönenberger Complete system for hanging goods RA1994 Manufacturer: Schönenberger Various components available: Straight sections can be optionally shortened: 1 pcs. x 1.00m 1 pcs. x 1.18m 1 pcs. x 1.52m 1 pcs. x 1.54m 1 pcs. x 1.54m 1 pcs. x 1.74m 6 pcs. x 1.80m 1 pcs. x 1.84m 1 pcs. x 2.05m 1 pcs. x 2.25m 7 pcs. x 2.28m 1 pcs. x 2.46m 2 pcs. x 2.50m 1 pcs. x 2.50m 1 pcs. x 2.60m 1 pcs. x 2.79m 5 pcs. x 3.00m 1 pcs. x 3.00m 1 pcs. x 3.34m 1 pcs. x 3.50m 4 pcs. x 3.64m 1 pcs. x 3.66m 1 pcs. x 3.70m 1 pcs. x 4.00m 1 pcs. x 4.00m 1 pcs. x 4.14m 1 pcs. x 4.26m 1 pcs. x 4.54m 1 pcs. x 4.57m 1 pcs. x 4.64m 1 pcs. x 4.72m 1 pcs. x 4.76m 1 pcs. x 4.87m 1 pcs. x 4.97m 2 pcs. x 5.00m 15 pcs. x 5.00m 1 pcs. x 5.06m 1 pcs. x 5.14m 1 pcs. x 5.14m 1 pcs. x 5.41m 1 pcs. x 5.59m 16 pcs. x 6.00m Turnouts: Left 14 and right 26 Curves: in various angles and radi: 30 pcs. Climbing drives: 2 pcs. Horizontal drives with matching curves: 2 pcs. The displayed price is not the total price, it is the product price Optionally available: Supports Side guides All prices net plus VAT ex central warehouse Dr. Sonntag GmbH & Co KG, 97076 Würzburg For individual, professional advice, simply get in touch with us. Just contact us by phone or by mail. Our complete product range can also be found on our website with customized filter option We will be happy to help you with the planning and implementation of your projects. We look forward to hearing from you. With kind regards Your team of Dr. Sonntag GmbH & Co. KG Ndodpfx Absvmqfljyjc Your specialist and contact for intralogistics

Condition: new, Year of construction: 2026, functionality: fully functional, Our StoStack 5000 is designed for high-performance stacking operations with medium to high throughput. The system processes up to two packages simultaneously, with a maximum length of 8 m, and offers a cycle rate of up to 30 pieces per minute without any air gap. Optionally, the machine can be equipped with an automatic spacer insertion system. This eliminates the need for an operator to insert spacers, which is particularly advantageous for integration into automated production lines. Adjustable uprights, a touch display, and extensive options for safety and automation make the StoStack 5000 a flexible solution for modern production environments. Applications: Stacking of boards Njdpfx Aetv E D Uobysdc Stacking of laminated timber Stacking of planed timber Stacking with/without air gap Stacking with/without intermediate spacers The advantages of the system at a glance: Fully automatic, flush stacking Fast, continuous process Precise positioning and rapid movements Simple operation via touchscreen Robust construction No pneumatics, therefore unrestricted operation even in freezing temperatures Data from timber measurement for subsequent invoicing Options: Board ejector for variable board widths and air gap (optimal for drying) Alignment rollers for longitudinal alignment of timber Ejector for removing defective boards Electrically adjustable side supports Mobile machine frame: deployment at multiple workstations by moving the machine on rails or with a forklift Technical data: Flexible stacking width: up to 1200 mm Stacking height: up to 1200 mm Board length: from 1500 mm Board/post width: 50 – 300 mm Board/post height: 15 – 120 mm Maximum board/post weight: 75 kg Maximum layer weight: 500 kg Cycle rate: up to 25 pieces per minute

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2004, Technical details: screw size: 105 mm injection shot weight in Polysterol: 4727 g/PS closing pressure: 2300 kN plate size: 2830 x 2400 mm opening stroke: 3700 mm daylight: 1100-1800 mm injection volume: 5195 ccm injection pressure max.: 2296 bar dimensions: 14,2 x 4,15 x 2,84 mm total wight: 143 t tie bars distance: 2000 x 1600 mm Robot system core pulls hot runner controller Ndedpfxstrbcbo Abysc -     The machine is in a very good condition       -     Additionally complete cutters available. -     A conveyor belt and Robot Systems(Model 2012) *

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2001, Technical details: screw size: 105 mm injection shot weight in Polysterol: 4.940 g/PS closing pressure: 9000 kN weight of the machine ca.: 19 t Out of serial production Machine and Robot condition regularly checked by EngelCare program Linear robot on machine was fully refurbished in 2021 Njdpfx Aotuncvsbyjdc *

Condition: refurbished (used), overall weight: 5,000 kg, Dimensions : 1,600 x 5,000/2, double decker complete with springs, spring brackets, base frame 11 kW electric motor and motor console, cardan drive, oil level lubrication workshop overhauled Nsdpoq Ttnyjfx Abyedc

Condition: used, Machine not operational - control system not functioning Available at a special price Double-column hydraulic press ALPHA TEC -- ALPHATEC Type RPS 5000 Factory No. 300487, Year of Manufacture 2006 Pressing force: 500 tons Distance between columns (front and rear): 2520 mm Table area: 2500 x 2500 mm Nodpsdzqptofx Abyodc Ram area: 2500 x 2500 mm Ram stroke: 600 mm Maximum installation height: 600 mm Table height above floor: approx. 900 mm Tank capacity: approx. 1000 liters Ram retraction force: approx. 22 tons Adjustable forward speed: 100-800 mm/s Pressure build-up to 5000 kN: approx. 0.7 sec. Return stroke speed: approx. 300 mm/s Main motor power: 75 kW Control pump motor power: 2.2 kW Power supply: 400 Volt, 50 Hz - 8-fold flat guide for the ram - Hydraulic ram locking in the top dead center position - Adjacent control cabinet (200 x 50 cm) - Electrical control system SIEMENS PLC S7-314 - Operation via SIEMENS OP 170-B (5.7") - 2-hand control panel located beside the machine - Floor-level installation - Table top 2510 x 2530 x 135 mm (approx. 6700 kg) - Central lubrication system - Operating manual with circuit diagrams Space requirement (L x W x H): 372 x 260 x 460 cm Space requirement for horizontal transport (L x W x H): 460 x 372 x 260 cm Weight: approx. 50 tons The machine was used for straightening heated steel flanges. From insolvency – in good condition.

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2011, Year: - 2011 – DBM 350 / DBM 350T - 2008 – DC-10/60 Condition: good, functional Ndsdpsznl Nkjfx Abyoc Counter DBM 350: 5,7 M Configuration: - 1 × Duplo DC-10/60 – 10-station collating tower (Year: 2008) - LUL-HM – Manual feeding module - 1 × Duplo DBM-350 – Booklet making module (stitching & folding) (Year: 2011) - 1 × Duplo DBM-350T – Face trimmer (Year: 2011) - 2 × HOHNER 43/6S stitching heads - Delivery conveyor / stacker Technical Specifications: - Manufacturer: Duplo - Model: DBM-350 – Automatic Saddle Stitching System - Maximum production speed: Up to 3,000 booklets/hour - Maximum sheet size: 320 × 460 mm (A3SR) - Minimum sheet size: 148 × 210 mm (A5) - Finished booklet size: 105 × 148 mm to 230 × 320 mm - Paper weight (standard paper): 64–128 g/m² - Paper weight (coated paper): 105–128 g/m² - Maximum cover stock: 300 g/m² - Maximum booklet thickness: 22 sheets (approx. 80 g/m²) - Number of stitching heads: 2 - Automatic size setup: Yes - Job memory: Up to 20 programs

Condition: used, Year of construction: 1995, x-travel 3500 mm y-travel 1600 mm z-travel 900 mm turning speeds 20-2000 U/min spindle taper ISO SK50 Table dimensions 5000x1000 mm control Heidenhain TNC 415B spindle drive motor 22 kW rapid traverse 5000 mm/min Table load 12500 kg range L-W-H 7,3x4x3,2 m milling head -swivable +/- CNC 360 ° weight of the machine ca. 16 t No. 108141 The tech. Data are manufacturer or operator information and therefore non- binding. We reserve the right to prior sale; Our terms and conditions of sale apply exclusively. About us More than 400 of our own machines in stock Over 15,000 m² of storage space, 70 t crane capacity More than 10,000 items and accessories for your workshop Nedpfjyt R Ahjx Abyodc If you are interested in selling machines, production lines, or your business, please contact us. You can find further offers on our website. Tours are possible by appointment. We look forward to your visit. Your Markus Hirsch Team

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2002, functionality: fully functional, machine/vehicle number: 001, cutting length (max.): 5,000 mm, Offered is an automatic edge trimming line with singulation, trimmer for cross-cutting, 2 stacking machines, additional discharge, and trimming of stacking slats: Boards 2000-5280 mm long, 16 - 40 mm thick, 70 - 260 mm wide, cycle rate of 29 or 58 pieces/minute, operated by one person sitting at the joystick: - Cross-transfer of boards with a 4-strand chain cross conveyor - Singulation inclined conveyor 6000 mm wide, 3000 mm at an angle - Alignment roller conveyor - Chain cross conveyor as a layer former - Star turners and sorters before the trimmer - Edge detection (ALFHA edger) - Trimmer with 11 saws in a 50.5 cm grid: The operator (sitting) at the joystick evaluates: without re-trimming, 5000 mm to stacking machine 1, alternatively: without re-trimming, 4000 mm to stacking machine 1 with re-trimming, 4000 mm to stacking machine 2 with re-trimming, 3000 mm to stacking machine 2 with re-trimming, short lengths for discharge into a box with re-trimming, short lengths for discharge into a box with re-trimming, 2 or 3 x 101 cm for stacking slats with re-trimming, 2 or 3 x 101 cm for stacking slats or waste cut - cut length 505 mm for the underlying vibration trough - 2 stacking machines: 1 x 2500 to 5280 mm and 1 x 2000 to 4280 mm - Automatic lowering of finished packages and transfer to automatic strapping - FROMM strapping with 16 mm plastic band and automatic transfer to the discharge roller conveyor - ALFHA control system with Siemens S 7 - ensures perfect operation. Performance records/daily logs - Control cabinets with Siemens components, SEW motors, Telco light barriers Nedpfx Ajy Uzhfebyodc For example, one employee, processing side boards of 4000/17 x 76 mm, produced, packaged, and strapped approximately 15,000 boards in 9 hours. The system is still assembled, but the upstream chipper has already been dismantled. Therefore, the system is immediately available. It is very robustly built and has always operated smoothly and without any problems. We can provide a process video via WhatsApp!

Condition: excellent (used), MS 300 control system, autogenous equipment CTM, 2 x vertical lift, 2x autogenous torch, 10 m track, energy chain Ndodpfx Aboyt Eg Ujysc

Condition: used, functionality: fully functional, Year of construction: 1987, Trailers with loading ramps for the transport of construction machinery and equipment. Njdpfx Abszb Nkgeysdc Special design: side-tipping.

Condition: excellent (used), functionality: fully functional, Roller conveyor with a length of 5 m, with the option to disassemble it into smaller elements for transport (possibility of cost-efficient shipping within the EU) Ndsdpsy Sinhjfx Abyjc

Condition: used, Year of construction: 1997, functionality: fully functional, input voltage: 380 V, overall weight: 300 kg, type of input current: three-phase, control voltage: 380 V, nominal power: 2.3 kW (3.13 HP), input frequency: 50 Hz, input current: 5 A, Hinged bandsaw for sale due to no longer being needed. Ndjdpfxeyzqbzs Abyoc

Condition: reconditioned (used), functionality: fully functional, turning diameter over cross slide: 1,000 mm, spindle bore: 130 mm, turning diameter: 1,350 mm, turning length: 3,000 mm, Status: during general overhaul. The PORĘBA TR series lathe is a universal machine tool intended for both roughing and finishing operations. It is particularly suitable for machining shafts as well as heavy, large-size workpieces. The offered machine is currently undergoing a general overhaul – the last photo presents its current stage of refurbishment. The remaining photographs show TR series lathes after general overhauls performed by our company and delivered to end users. They serve as a reference for the final quality standard and workmanship. Scope of the general overhaul: Nsdpoyh H Iysfx Abysdc - Complete dismantling of the lathe - Regeneration and replacement of worn components - Calibration of trapezoidal lead screws and manufacturing of new bronze nuts - Replacement of bearings and sliding bushings, including new spindle bearings - Grinding of bed, carriage and top slide guideways, followed by scraping of mating surfaces (with application of anti-friction materials) - Regeneration of the tailstock quill - Regeneration of the tool post - Overhaul and modernization of lubrication and coolant systems - Electrical scope: manufacturing of a new electrical cabinet, complete new machine wiring, and replacement of all electrical components with new ones - Inspection of electric motors together with replacement of bearings - New painting - After completion of the overhaul: trial assembly, preliminary acceptance at our workshop, positioning on the foundation, levelling and final acceptance - Adaptation of the lathe to minimum safety requirements in accordance with applicable EU Directives

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2018, Year: 2018 Condition: very good Multifunctional finishing machine for digital printing Configuration: - CCD camera - 6 rotary knives - cross cutting unit - creasing unit - RTM - automatic perforating and scoring unit - PC ALL in one Ndedsww Etqepfx Abyjc - SW jobcreator

Condition: used, This listing is for the Gilson PIPETMAN P5000 500-5000uL Single Channel Pipette. Colour-code Purple Njdpfx Asxv Dqpjbyedc The unit is in full working condition and is ready for immediate use Patented volume locking system preventing accidental changing of volume setting Adjustable tip ejector button to adapt to both right- and left-handed users Clip mechanism allows easy and safe removal of tip ejector Lowest pipetting forces on the market give increased comfort even when pipetting for long periods GLP features include 2-D bar code for traceability

Condition: good (used), Hydraulic unit, hydraulic pump, hydraulic pump, universal unit, hydraulic station, -Manufacturer: Duplomatic, hydraulic unit type CTR 2 -Hydraulic pump: Racine Vickers PVQ PSSO 06ER 20 Nsdownpkhspfx Abyedc -Motor: 0.75 kW -Pressure: up to 20 bar -Flow rate: 9 l/min -Hydraulic tank: with level indicator -Individual components: see photos -Dimensions: 550/245/H590 mm -Weight: 62 kg

Condition: new, Year of construction: 2026, functionality: fully functional, working width: 760 mm, area performance: 4,000 m²/h, warranty duration: 24 months, tank capacity: 120 l, total height: 1,258 mm, total width: 834 mm, total length: 1,458 mm, water tank capacity: 130 l, operating speed: 8 mm/s, We offer for sale a new Ride-On Scrubber Dryer IXSA X9 with seat Device warranty – 24 months Battery warranty – 60 months Technical Data: • Working width: 760 mm • Machine performance: 4000 m²/h • Brush diameter (quantity): 380 mm (2) • Squeegee width: 1020 mm • Recovery tank capacity: 130 l • Solution tank capacity: 120 l • Rated power: 2100 W • Maximum gradient: 10% • Vacuum motor power: 24 V / 550 W • Brush motor power: 24 V / 2 x 550 W • Maximum speed: 8 km/h • Brush pressure: 3.5 MPa Ndedpfxeyaaflo Abysc • Brush speed: 180 rpm • Pad width: 13" • Vacuum: 188 mbar • Noise level (EN 60704): 65 dB(A) • Machine dimensions (L/W/H): 1458 x 834 x 1258 mm • Machine weight (without battery): 248 kg • Lifepo4 Batteries: 25.6V 200Ah – operating time approx. 5 h • Lifepo4 Batteries: 25.6V 300Ah – operating time approx. 7 h • Possibility of opportunity charging Standard equipment for the scrubber dryers offered includes: • Neodymium disc brushes – magnet-mounted • Pad holder • LifePro extended-cycle batteries for longer run time compared to standard gel batteries • Charger • Squeegee blades made from Linatex material Why choose IXSA? ✅ Durability – minimal electronics ensure extended trouble-free operation ✅ 5-year warranty on lithium-ion batteries – an industry-leading guarantee of durability and reliability ✅ Greater number of charge cycles compared to gel batteries (700 vs. 5000 cycles) and longer operating life – IXSA batteries offer greater efficiency and reduced long-term replacement costs ✅ Magnet-mounted brushes – easy installation and removal ✅ Long battery runtime with short charging time ✅ Highest quality American LINATEX squeegee blades ✅ Double vacuum system – perfectly dry floors immediately after cleaning ✅ Neodymium brushes – modern technology for better results and extended brush life ✅ High surface area performance – saves time and labour costs ✅ Robust construction and low operating costs – ideal for intensive, professional use ✅ Ergonomic and intuitive operation – user comfort and easy handling

Condition: ready for operation (used), functionality: fully functional, Year of construction: 2014, operating hours: 8,416 h, laser power: 3,200 W, sheet thickness steel (max.): 10 mm, sheet thickness aluminum (max.): 4 mm, pipe diameter (max.): 152 mm, working length: 6,500 mm, TRUMPF Tube Laser Cutting System with LoadMaster Tube 6.5 m and extensive additional equipment! TECHNICAL DETAILS Maximum tube diameter: 152 mm Maximum working length: 6,500 mm Material thickness (steel): 10 mm Material thickness (stainless steel): 5 mm Material thickness (aluminum): 4 mm Laser power: 3,200 W MACHINE DETAILS Control system: SIEMENS Sinumerik 840D SL Operating hours: 24,428 / 8,416 h EQUIPMENT - LoadMaster Tube 6.5 m with bundle magazine - Robust machine frame with integrated laser unit - Feed station with self-centering clamping jaws - Raw material tube support with automatically retractable pipe rests - Through-feed chuck with self-centering parallel clamping rollers - High-precision drives - Discharge station for finished workpieces up to 3 m in length - Tube support for finished parts with extendable guide rollers - Scrap conveyor with collection bin - Enclosed beam guide - NitroLine - FocusLine - Laser power control - Programmable cutting gas pressure - Automatic power on/off - Ergonomic control panel with touch color screen - Work area illumination - High-frequency excitation - Maintenance-free turbo radial blower - TASC 3 laser control - Laser logbook function - Cooling unit - Single cutting head strategy - Lens cutting head, 155 mm focal length - ControlLine - Simple operation - Online support - Diagnostic functions Ndedpjygu Tkofx Abysc - Integrated technology data - Remote service via internet - RJ45 network interface and USB port - CE marking - Multi-beam light barriers - Monitoring system for gas pressure, temperature, and cooling water, among others - Compact dust extraction system - Protective enclosure with polycarbonate (Makrolon) panels - Jaw sets with clamping range 20–85 mm and 85–152 mm - Quick-change forming shells for round tubes up to 152 mm - Quick-change forming shells for rectangular tubes (up to a circumscribed circle of 85 mm) - Quick-change forming shells for rectangular tubes (up to a circumscribed circle of 170 mm) - Guide rollers for round and rectangular tubes - SeamLine Tube with inner seam detection - Adaptive clamping technology – feed station, small circumscribed circle - Adaptive clamping technology – feed station, large circumscribed circle - Adaptive clamping technology – through-feed chuck, small circumscribed circle - Adaptive clamping technology – through-feed chuck, large circumscribed circle Note: The machine will be dismantled on 02/03/2026 and can be inspected under power until then.