Used Doosan Cnc Turning- And Milling Center for sale (33,421)

Condition: used, Gildemeister italiana GD16 with LNS loading magazine Main spindle & capacities: - Max. turning diameter: 16 mm - Max. spindle bore: 16 mm - Max. turning length: 160 mm - Max. spindle speed: 8,000 rpm - Spindle power: 1.5 kW to 2.2 kW Axes & feed rate: - Rapid traverse: 30 m/min - Control system: GE FANUC Series 18i-T Dwjdpsy D Nw Tsfx Ah Noa Dimensions & connection values: - Total power requirement: approx. 2.2 kW to 5 kW - Machine weight: approx. 1,600 kg to 2,100 kg - Machine dimensions: approx. 1,100 mm (width) × 1,800 mm (height)

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 2006, Max cutting diameter 420mm, 750mm swing, max cutting length 1524mm, 102mm bar capacity, 3300rpm spindle, 4000rpm milling, Dwsdjyt H Tvspfx Ah Noa 12 station turret, 30kW motor power, 3 jaw chuck, Mazatrol 640T Nexus control, 0.001 degree C axis, tool setter, tailstock, swarf conveyor

Condition: like new (used), Year of construction: 2023, operating hours: 506 h, functionality: fully functional, machine/vehicle number: G3790-0043, turning length: 705 mm, turning diameter over cross slide: 290 mm, turning diameter: 230 mm, spindle motor power: 20,000 W, spindle speed (max.): 6,000 rpm, spindle bore: 51 mm, travel distance X-axis: 195 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 100 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 700 mm, rapid traverse X-axis: 20 m/min, rapid traverse Y-axis: 8 m/min, rapid traverse Z-axis: 40 m/min, rotational speed (max.): 5,000 rpm, feed length Z-axis: 700 mm, bar passage: 51 mm, Equipment: rotational speed infinitely variable, 1. CNC turning machine with a 12-position tool turret, capable of simultaneously controlling up to 8 spindles for 2 systems. 2. Enables single-setup machining. Djdpezd D Nusfx Ah Newa 3. Powerful, integrated spindle motor. 4. Robust BMT turret. 5. Multitasking capabilities can be achieved by adding a Y-axis to the upper turret (TTSY specifications). 6. Integrated machining through synchronized control of the main and counter-spindle. 7. Construction with hybrid guides: a combination of box guides (XY-axis) and linear guides (Z-axis).

Condition: like new (used), Year of construction: 2023, operating hours: 343 h, functionality: fully functional, machine/vehicle number: G3791-0010, turning length: 705 mm, turning diameter over cross slide: 290 mm, turning diameter: 230 mm, spindle motor power: 20 W, spindle speed (min.): 10 rpm, spindle speed (max.): 6,000 rpm, spindle bore: 51 mm, travel distance X-axis: 190 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 700 mm, rapid traverse X-axis: 20 m/min, rapid traverse Z-axis: 40 m/min, bar diameter (max.): 51 mm, overall weight: 8,200 kg, • High-performance, integrated spindle motor • High productivity through simultaneous use of the upper and lower turrets • Robust BMT turret • Integrated machining through synchronized control of the main and counter spindle Specifications: • Max. turning diameter 230 mm • Max. turning length 705 mm • Chuck size, main/auxiliary 6" / 6" • Drive type: Integrated • Spindle speed 6,000 rpm • Spindle power 15/11 kW • Spindle torque 208/140 Nm • Travel distances (X1/X2/Z1/Z2/ZB) 65/195/700/720/700 mm • Rapid traverse (X1/X2/Z1/Z2/ZB) 20/20/40/40/40 m/min • Guide type: LM (linear motion) • Number of tools 2 x 12 Dodpfx Aezd Dizjh Njwa • Tool size 20/32 mm • Milling spindle speed 5,000 rpm

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 2002, functionality: fully functional, machine/vehicle number: 3425C 013, We will provide more detailed information about the equipment during a personal on-site visit, which we recommend. Djdszpwunspfx Ah Nswa

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 2019, operating hours: 2,808 h, functionality: fully functional, machine/vehicle number: NL257181158, turning length: 705 mm, travel distance X-axis: 260 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 50 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 795 mm, swing diameter over cross slide: 742 mm, swing diameter over bed slide: 920 mm, New auction due to buyer's payment default! TECHNICAL DETAILS Working Area Swinging diameter over bed max.: 920 mm Swinging diameter over cross slide max.: 742 mm Turning length max.: 705 mm Bar capacity: 80 mm X-axis travel: 260 mm Y-axis travel: 50 mm Z-axis travel: 795 mm Main Spindle Dwodpfx Ahozck Txe Nja Power: 18.5/15 kW Speed max.: 4,000 rpm Chuck size: 10 inches Spindle bore: 91 mm Front bearing diameter: 140 mm Counter Spindle Power: 11/7.5 kW Speed max.: 4,000 rpm Chuck size: 6 inches Spindle bore: 45 mm Front bearing diameter: 85 mm Turret and Axes Tool stations: 12 Arbor cross-section: 25 mm Speed of driven tools max.: 10,000 rpm Rapid traverse X-axis: 30,000 mm/min Rapid traverse Y-axis: 10,000 mm/min Rapid traverse Z-axis: 30,000 mm/min Rapid traverse B-axis: 30,000 mm/min MACHINE DETAILS Control: M730UM with CELOS Dimensions & Weight Machine height: 2,000 mm Footprint: 3,347 x 2,106 mm Weight: 5,820 kg Operating hours: 2,808 h Power-on hours: 11,311 h EQUIPMENT Y-axis Counter spindle Main spindle with 10-inch chuck Counter spindle with 6-inch chuck Chip conveyor High-pressure coolant system Tool measuring device Parts catcher Workpiece ejector Interface for bar loader

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 2019, operating hours: 2,770 h, functionality: fully functional, machine/vehicle number: NL257181158, turning length: 705 mm, travel distance X-axis: 260 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 50 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 795 mm, swing diameter over cross slide: 742 mm, swing diameter over bed slide: 920 mm, TECHNICAL DETAILS Working Area Swinging diameter over bed max.: 920 mm Swinging diameter over cross slide max.: 742 mm Turning length max.: 705 mm Bar capacity: 80 mm X-axis travel: 260 mm Y-axis travel: 50 mm Z-axis travel: 795 mm Main Spindle Power: 18.5/15 kW Speed max.: 4,000 rpm Chuck size: 10 inches Spindle bore: 91 mm Front bearing diameter: 140 mm Counter Spindle Power: 11/7.5 kW Speed max.: 4,000 rpm Chuck size: 6 inches Spindle bore: 45 mm Front bearing diameter: 85 mm Turret and Axes Tool stations: 12 Shank cross-section: 25 mm Speed of driven tools max.: 10,000 rpm Rapid traverse X-axis: 30,000 mm/min Rapid traverse Y-axis: 10,000 mm/min Rapid traverse Z-axis: 30,000 mm/min Rapid traverse B-axis: 30,000 mm/min MACHINE DETAILS Control: M730UM with CELOS Dimensions & Weight Machine height: 2,000 mm Footprint: 3,347 x 2,106 mm Weight: 5,820 kg Operating hours: 2,770 h Power-on hours: 10,820 h EQUIPMENT Dwjdpfx Ahsy A Nf Is Nsa Y-axis Counter spindle Main spindle with 10-inch chuck Counter spindle with 6-inch chuck Chip conveyor High-pressure coolant system Tool measuring device Parts catcher Workpiece ejector Interface for bar loader

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2001, Technical details: turning diameter: 33 mm turning length: 330 mm control: 840 total power requirement: 20 kW weight of the machine ca.: 6 t dimensions of the machine ca.: 3850,2000,2100 m Dwedpfsw D Hh Aex Ah Nja 17 axes 3 revolvers with the powered tools 1 gantry with the driven tools Main and counter spindle with C axes Barfeeder Machine On-time 58,133 hours *

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 2022, functionality: fully functional, Hurco TM 8 MI turning-milling center, year of manufacture 2022, Winmax Lathe control system, travel range X/Z 203/550 mm, 12-station turret, VDI 30, spindle speed up to 4,000 rpm, C-axis, driven tools, chip conveyor, bar capacity up to 65 mm. Dodpfx Ahjzg E E Ao Nowa

Condition: used, Year of construction: 1995, Machine in parts for sale spare parts ..... CNC lathe, make GILDEMEISTER Type: CTX 600, year 1995 Forkardt chuck 315 mm, tool turret Tailstock, steady rest Headstock Guide covers and sheets Motors Machine in individual parts for sale ..... Please ask what you need and we will send you an offer. Dwodsnximuspfx Ah Nea

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 1996, CNC turning center TRAUB Type:TNC65 DG Year 1996 Control TRAUB TX8F With lots of accessories. Djdpfx Aheu Eug Ij Nswa

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2004, functionality: fully functional, turning length: 1,200 mm, Equipment: documentation/manual, Mazak Quick Turn Nexus 350M CNC turning center with Mazatrol 640T Nexus CNC control Year of manufacture: 2004.11 Turning length: 1,200 mm Max. swing diameter: 750 mm Standard machining diameter: 336 mm Max. machining diameter: 420 mm Bar capacity: 102 mm Maximum spindle speed: 4,000 rpm 12-position tool turret Kitagawa 12-inch hydraulic 3-jaw chuck Tailstock Machine weight: 7,500 kg Includes various turret-mounted tool holders, 4 driven tool holders, and additional accessories. Accessories: 4 driven tools Mazak tool holders Dwjdpfxsx Dccye Ah Nea Chip conveyor

Condition: reconditioned (used), Year of construction: 2010, operating hours: 31,600 h, functionality: fully functional, machine/vehicle number: 3078, Travel range Z = 400 mm Y = 200 mm X = 410 mm Power / thrust force Z-Y 2.5 kW / 550 daN (linear motor option = 7.2 kW / 350 daN) X 4.8 kW / > 550 daN X-Y-Z Travel speed 40 m/min (linear motor option = 50 m/min) X-Y-Z-W Acceleration 8 m/s2 / 0.8 g (linear motor option = 10.4 m/s2 / 1.1 g) X-Y-Z-W Resolution 0.0001 mm MAIN SPINDLE + C1 Power 7.5 kW Torque / peak 22 / 28 Nm Measuring system direct Resolution 0.0001° Accuracy 0.001° Bar passage Ø 32 mm Turning spindle speed 72,000°/min Turning clamping force 4,900 N at 6 bar AXIS B (TILT AXIS OF TOOL HOLDER SPINDLE) Power 4.3 kW Torque / peak 119 / 226 Nm Angular travel -25° / +115° Measuring system direct Resolution 0.0001° Accuracy 0.001° Rotational speed 36,000°/min Supporting torque 200 Nm TOOL HOLDER SPINDLE Power 5 kW Torque 6 to 800 min-1 Max. speed 30,000 min-1 Clamping force of the tool holder 2,000 N Blocking torque mechanical blocking via straight-tooth gearing Tool shank taper HSK 40 (A or E) Tool clamping power 1000 daN TOOL CHANGER Number of stations 30 (for HSK 40) CNC control Fanuc 30i/31i type Y-axis (transverse axis) Travel 200 mm Power 4.8 kW Feed power 240 daN Resolution 0.0001 mm Max. rapid traverse G0 50 m/min Max. feedrate G1 20 m/min Measuring system glass scale Z-axis (longitudinal axis) Travel 400 mm Power 7.2 kW Feed power 360 daN Resolution 0.0001 mm Max. rapid traverse G0 50 m/min Max. feedrate G1 20 m/min Measuring system glass scale Includes coolant unit 8 kW and integration of an emergency stop system. Inventory no. 2220114, machine comprising: CONTROL Fanuc 30i/31i, with 14’’ screen LINEAR MOTOR FEED OPTION for Y and Z axes TURNING-MILLING FUNCTION with integration of an indexing system (8 positions) on the tool holder spindle, transformation of the tool magazine for HSK40-A tool holders, increase of the spindle speed to 5500 min-1 4-POSITION PART RECOVERY UNIT “PRM” FOR MACHINING THE 6TH FACE: In idle state, the unit is located protected under the main C1 spindle. The recovery unit moves on the W-axis, which is parallel to the C-axis. Max. speed W-axis: 40 m/min. Travel on W-axis: 310 mm. With 2 vices – power at 5 bar: 3500 N 1 tailstock Dedpfx Ahsyf Ange Nswa INCREASED SPINDLE PASSAGE increase from 1 to 50 mm (main spindle) TOOL MEASUREMENT DEVICE “RENISHAW” T27 Measurement of the length of the turning tool. Routine detection by M-code. Automatic tool breakage monitoring. TOOL MAGAZINE EXTENSION Increase in the number of tools from 30 to 60 stations COOLANT THROUGH THE SPINDLE 100 bar, 25 L/min, 400 L tank ADAPTATION AND PREPARATION OF HP THROUGH THE MILLING SPINDLE Mechanical and electrical integration of the turning clutch. PART UNLOADING CONVEYOR Output to the left of the machine PAPER BAND FILTER SYSTEM CLAMPING SYSTEM FOR F-48 CLAMPS ADAPTATION FOR W-20 CLAMPS PREPARATION FOR INTEGRATION OF A BAR FEEDER Subject to errors and omissions, the technical specifications are provided without commitment.

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 2006, operating hours: 19,067 h, functionality: fully functional, machine/vehicle number: 122616, travel distance X-axis: 500 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 95 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 1,650 mm, controller model: OKUMA OSP P200L, center width: 1,500 mm, TECHNICAL DETAILS Travel in X-axis: 500 mm Travel in Y-axis: 95 mm Travel in Z-axis: 1,650 mm Swing over bed: 550 mm Power: 22.0 kW Distance between centers: 1,500 mm Spindle bore: 80 mm Counter spindle speed: 4,500 rpm Tool magazine: 44 tools Tool holder: HSK-F63 Spindle speed: 12,000 rpm MACHINE DETAILS Control system: OKUMA OSP P200L Dimensions & Weight Dodpey Rxprefx Ah Nowa Dimensions (L x W x H): 5,100 x 2,800 x 2,900 mm Shipping weight: 13,700 kg Shipping packages: 7 pieces Operating hours: 19,067 h EQUIPMENT Automatic workpiece loader with controlled arm from Pneumotec Automatic bar feeder from LNS Quick Load Servo III Counter spindle VAC-MB11 Milling head with automatic tool changer Turret: 12 tool positions Chip conveyor Turret head Powered tools Bar loader 3-jaw chuck Tool magazine C-axis Documentation CE marking

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 2008, Maximum cutting diameter 820mm, maximum cutting length 3048mm, C axis 0.0001 degrees, B axis -30/+210 degrees, Dsdpfetmtktox Ah Njwa 40 ATC, spindle speed 1,600 rpm, Milling speed 10,000rpm., main spindle 37Kw, spindle taper din50, Y axis -/+ 250mm, Mazatrol Matrix control, fixed steady, swarf conveyor

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2020, Swing over bed 880mm, Swing over saddle 817 mm, Maximum turning diameter 550mm, maximum turning length 3070mm, bar capacity 116.5mm, Y axis +/- 75mm, Spindle speed 2000rpm, milling speed 4,000rpm, Dodpfx Aox I N Rbjh Nowa spindle power 37/30KW, 12 station turret, Fanuc IPlus control. 3 jaw chuck, tool setter, Hydraulic steady, swarf conveyor,

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 2007, Maximum cutting diameter 820mm, maximum cutting length 1500mm, C axis 0.0001 degrees, B axis -30/+210 degrees, 40 ATC, spindle speed 1,600 rpm, Milling speed 10,000rpm., main spindle 37Kw, Djdpfxju Rb Sno Ah Nowa spindle taper din50, Y axis -/+ 250mm, Mazatrol Matrix control, swarf conveyor

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2013, swing over cross-slide 360mm, Maximum cutting diameter 366mm, Maximum cutting length 705mm, Bar capacity 80mm, Spindle speed 4,000rpm, milling speed 10,000rpm, Main spindle power 18.5Kw, C axis 0.001 degrees, Y axis -/+ 50mm, 12 station turret. Mori Control M730BM, equipped with Toolsetter, swarf conveyor, 3 jaw chuck, Parts catcher, barfeed unit Djdpox Eitujfx Ah Njwa

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2000, Gildemeister CNC universal lathe Type/Model: CTX 600 E Condition: Used Operating hours: 99,831 h Year of manufacture: 2000 Dodpfxszdrrks Ah Njwa Technical data Swinging diameter: 680 mm Distance between centers: 2000 mm Spindle speed: 2800 rpm Chuck: Ø 315 mm Tool turret: 12 stations; incl. 3 stations for driven tools Tool holder: VDI 50 Tailstock: NC-controlled Dimensions approx. 5560 x 240 x 213 mm Weight approx. 10,000 kg Equipment: - Power chuck, type SMW Autoblok 315 BH-FX, Ø 315 mm - Control system: Heidenhain CNC Pilot

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2007, turning length: 744 mm, turning diameter: 430 mm, spindle speed (max.): 5,000 rpm, spindle bore: 65 mm, Control: CNC path control with 10.4" TFT color display Siemens Sinumerik 840 D powerline TECHNICAL DATA Turning diameter *over bed 600 mm *over cross slide 500 mm Distance between main spindle and counter spindle 975 mm Maximum turning diameter 430 mm Maximum turning length 744 mm Maximum bar diameter 65 mm Workpiece size with counter spindle max. ø 200 x 200 mm Main spindle Drive power 29 kW Speed range 0 – 5000 rpm Maximum bar passage 65 mm Maximum chuck size 200 mm C-axis *Resolution 0.001° Counter spindle Drive power (100/40% ED) 17/22 kW Speed range 0 – 5000 rpm Maximum chuck size 200 mm Travel (Z-axis) 750 mm C-axis*Resolution 0.001° Upper tool holder Disc turret with direction logic Number of stations 12 of which driven 12 Tool holder DIN 69880 VDI 30 Drive power 6.7 kW Speed range 0- 4000 rpm Travel *X-axis 270 mm Dodjyx U Hiopfx Ah Newa *Z-axis 750 mm *Y-axis + 50 mm Lower tool holder Disc turret with direction logic Number of stations 12 of which driven 12 Tool holder DIN 69880 VDI 30 Drive power 6.7 kW Speed range 0- 4000 rpm Travel *X-axis 205 mm *Z-axis 750 mm EQUIPMENT/ACCESSORIES  Full enclosure with electrical interlock and sliding doors and machine light  Bar loader magazine IEMCA TAL/Auto 65/32 for bar length 3000 mm including: -Guide channel -Centering device -Axial displacement  Thermal compensation systems for the integrated spindle motors (liquid-cooled)  Hydraulic cylinder with draw tube for main spindle  Hydraulic cylinder with draw rod for counter spindle  C-axes for main and counter spindle  Transmit software for easy C-axis programming  Y-axis in the upper turret (cutting force distribution on 2 axes, resulting in extremely high rigidity)  Drive unit in the upper and lower turret  Part ejector and flushing through the counter spindle  Part removal device for the finished parts Finished part max. ø 65 x 200 mm Finished part weight max. 4.5 kg  Conveyor belt for removing the finished parts from the machine  Turret steady rest including VDI 30 base mounted above the coolant supply (14 bar) centrally in the tool turret Diameter range 10 – 70 mm  Coolant system with 2 high-pressure pumps at 14 bar each and 2 flushing pumps at 3.7 bar each  Cleaning gun for cleaning the clamping devices, covers and the entire working area with coolant  Chip conveyor (hinge belt) in extended form for portal design, suitable for: -long steel chips -chip clusters -fibrous chips -dry and wet machining  Electronic oil mist separator 800 – 1000 m³/h  Automatic central oil lubrication for guideways and ball screws  Grease lubrication for main and counter spindle  HAINBUCH collet chuck size 65 for main spindle, without stop (without collets)  Serial interface  Mounting elements  Documentation

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 2008, turning length: 1,500 mm, turning diameter: 420 mm, Manufacturer: MAZAK Type: QTN 350 II MY Control: Mazatrol Matrix Nexus Year of Manufacture: 2008 Specifications Metric US Standard Max. Turning Diameter 420 mm X-Axis 257 mm Y-Axis 152 mm Z-Axis 1607 mm Spindle Bore 102 mm Speed 3300 rpm Spindle Power 30 kW Tool Changer 12-Speed Driven Tool Power 4000 rpm Driven Tool Power Dwedpfxjwaikxj Ah Nja 7.5 kW Quill Mount 5 Mk Quill Stroke 200 mm Dimensions (Estimate) Length 5000 mm Width 2100 mm Height 2200 mm Weight 8600 kg Please note: The information on this page has been compiled to the best of our knowledge and belief, and where possible, by the manufacturer. This information is provided in good faith, but its accuracy cannot be guaranteed. Accordingly, it does not constitute a representation or contractual terms. We recommend that you review all important details.

Condition: good (used), Manufacturer: MAZAK Type: Integrex 200-4 S Control: MAZATROL MATRIX Dsdpfxowpufgs Ah Newa Year of Manufacture: 2010 Specifications Metric US Standard Max. turning diameter 660 mm X-axis 580 mm Y-axis 160 mm Z-axis 1045 mm B-axis 225° Spindle bore 82 mm Spindle speed 5000 rpm Spindle power 18.5 kW Counter spindle speed 6000 rpm Counter spindle bore 82 mm Counter spindle power 18.5 kW Tool changer 80 Driven tool speed 12,000 rpm Dimensions (estimated) Length 4500 mm Width 2400 mm Height 2900 mm Weight 9200 kg Please note: The information on this page was obtained to the best of our knowledge and, as far as possible, from the manufacturer. The information is provided in good faith, but accuracy cannot be guaranteed. Accordingly, they do not constitute representations or contractual terms. We recommend you check all important details.

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2005, turning length: 1,585 mm, turning diameter: 760 mm, spindle speed (max.): 6,000 rpm, travel distance X-axis: 630 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 230 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 1,585 mm, bar passage: 80 mm, Max. turning Ø: 760mm X-axis: 630mm Y-axis: 230mm Z-Axis: 1585mm B Axis: 225° Spindle bore: 80mm Dedpfx Ahjvgcpvj Newa Speed range: 6000Rpm B-Axis Speedranges:12000Rpm B-Axis power: 19kW Length: 7000mm Width: 2700mm Height: 2800mm Weight: 14500kg

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 2005, operating hours: 9,999 h, functionality: fully functional, SPINNER Werkzeugmaschinenfabrik GmbH Used CNC Lathe Model: SPINNER UP65 Year of manufacture: 2005 Control: Siemens Sinumerik 840 Main spindle + counter spindle Sauter turret with driven tools Operating hours: 80,412 h Accessories: 3 driven tools, 10 standard tools with holders, 8 empty holders CE certified Buffer battery last changed in March No chip conveyor Typical technical specifications of the SPINNER UP65: • Max. turning diameter: approx. 300–400 mm • Max. turning length: approx. 600–1,000 mm • Swing over bed: approx. 500–600 mm • Spindle bore: 65 mm main spindle • Main spindle speed: approx. 4,000–5,000 rpm Dwsdpfxoy Sr Iqs Ah Nea • Counter spindle speed: up to approx. 6,000–7,000 rpm • Main spindle drive power: approx. 15–22 kW • Turret: Sauter tool turret with driven tools • Tool holder: typically VDI30 • Travel paths: X approx. 200–250 mm, Z approx. 600–1,000 mm • Rapid traverse: X approx. 20 m/min, Z approx. 24 m/min • Control: Siemens Sinumerik 840 • Machine weight: approx. 4,500–6,500 kg Chucks: • Main spindle: Ø160 with Ø81, through bore Ø60 • Counter spindle: Ø160 with Ø43

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2008, DOOSAN MX2000ST 9 AXIS MILL TURN CENTER Sub spindle and bottom Turret Both spindles have 200mm power chucks on at the moment but we also have a Heinbuck collet chuck available Dedsydigmopfx Ah Nswa good package of tooling Shown working on our motorsport jobs all done in one! Can be demonstrated if required.