Used Seiger Lathe - Cycle-Controlled for sale (52,213)

Condition: used, Year of construction: 1998, Technical details: turning diameter over bed: 500 mm turning dia. over face-slide: 340 mm turning length: - mm centre distance: 1500 mm swing diameter: 500 mm centre height: 250 mm control: Heidehain Plus spindle bore: 80 mm range of revolution per miute: 20 - 2400 U/min total power requirement: 11 kW Dwodpfxezu Ndle Aa Hsb weight of the machine ca.: 0,25 t dimension machine approx.LxWxH: 3,2 x 1,7 x 1,8 m

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 2009, control FANUC 18i-TB Control x-axis 0 mm z-axis 0 mm spindle taper 0 number of spindle speeds 0 engine output 0 kW weight of the machine ca. 8.200 kg dimensions of the machine ca. 1905,0 × 2720,0 × 3260,0 m DOOSAN PUMA TL 2500LM with IFS extraction system, multi-turret turning centres for shaft machining The PUMA TL series stands out thanks to its innovative design, featuring both upper and lower turrets. This advanced configuration makes it the ideal choice for the demanding machining of shafts, such as camshafts and crankshafts. Thanks to the capability for simultaneous 4-axis machining, complex machining processes can be carried out precisely, efficiently and in a single operation. --> Technical Specifications Mains connection: AC 200/220 V, 3-phase with earth, 50/60 Hz --> Rated power: 52.33 kVA --> Max. connected load: 22.0 kW --> Full-load current: 137.33 A --> Short-circuit current: 33.0 kA --> Max. turning diameter: 350 mm --> Max. turning length: 700 mm --> Spindle bore: 76 mm --> Main spindle: Integrated motorised spindle drive with oil cooling --> Tool holder: VDI 40 --> Number of turrets: 2 --> Tool stations: 20 (12 upper / 8 lower) --> Tailstock: Hydraulic --> Lubrication: Automatic centralised lubrication --> Coolant system: Separate coolant tank, 210 litres --> Machine bed: Meehanite cast iron bed with hardened box-type slideways Djdpfszvq Dpsx Aa Hswb --> Chuck: Hydraulic chuck Manufacturer: SCHUNK --> Type: ROTA NC 315-86 --> ID No. > Design: 3-jaw wedge-hook power chuck --> Chuck diameter: 315 mm --> Through-bore: 86 mm --> Piston stroke: 25 mm --> Stroke per jaw: 5.8 mm --> Max. clamping force: 155 kN --> Max. actuating force: 58 kN --> Max. speed: 3,500 min?¹ --> Jaw pitch: 1/16" × 90°

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2001, - Fagor 8055 CNC control - Operating modes: manual/cycle-controlled - 8-fold tool turret VDI30 - Overhauled 2023 - Year of construction 2001 Technical data Capacity: - Center height: 200 mm - Center width: 1000 mm - Permissible Ø over guide bed: 400 mm - Permissible Ø over longitudinal slide: 370 mm - Permissible Ø over cross slide: 210 mm - Bed width: 300 mm Headstock: - Bore of main spindle: 65 mm - Main spindle nose: Camlock-n°6 / DIN 55027-n°6 - Morse taper of the main spindle: MK5 - Spindle speeds: 2 - Constant cutting speed: 0-750 / 750-3000 rpm Feed rates: - Working feed Z/X: 0 - 7000 mm/min - Rapid traverse Z/X: 10 m/min Tailstock: - Tailstock shank Ø: 58 mm - Tailstock shank travel: 155 mm Dwodsvf I Dijpfx Aa Hsb - Morse taper tailstock: 4 Motors: - Main motor power: 7.5 kW - DC motor Z-axis power: 6.8 Nm - DC motor X-axis power: 3.4 Nm - Motor pump power: 0.57 kW Dimensions: - Machine weight: approx. 2300 kg - Dimensions WxHxD: 2980 x 1730 x 1610 mm

Condition: used, Year of construction: 1983, turning diameter 820 mm turning length 300 mm turning diameter over slide 465 mm max. torque on the spindle 3000 Nm turning speeds 5,6-1120 U/min Feed 1-5000 mm/min Rapid movement 5000 mm/min tailstock quill taper MT 6 main drive motor 50 kW diameter of main spindle 170 mm spindle passage 128 mm tailstock quill diameter 125 mm tailstock quill stroke 250 mm z-axis 3000 mm x-axis 550 mm total power requirement 52 kW weight of the machine ca. 7,1 t The tech. Data are manufacturer or operator information and therefore non- binding. We reserve the right to prior sale; Our terms and conditions of sale apply exclusively. About us More than 400 of our own machines in stock Over 15,000 m² of storage space, 70 t crane capacity More than 10,000 items and accessories for your workshop If you are interested in selling machines, production lines, or your business, please contact us. You can find further offers on our website. Tours are possible by appointment. We look forward to your visit. Your Markus Hirsch Team Dedpoyqvamjfx Aa Hewb

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2014, turning diameter over bed 600 mm turning diameter over slide rest 400 mm turning length 2000 mm hollow 82 mm turning diameter 600 mm turning dia. in gap 800 mm length of gap 400 mm turning speeds 2000 U/min 3-jaw chuck 250 mm steady 210 mm with live steady 200 mm The tech. Data are manufacturer or operator information and therefore non-binding. We reserve the right to prior sale; Our terms and conditions of sale Dwsdpfx Aeyqv Rxea Hob apply exclusively. About us More than 400 of our own machines in stock Over 15,000 m² of storage space, 70 t crane capacity More than 10,000 items and accessories for your workshop If you are interested in selling machines, production lines, or your business, please contact us. You can find further offers on our website. Tours are possible by appointment. We look forward to your visit. Your Markus Hirsch Team

Condition: used, turning diameter 820 mm turning length 5000 mm turning diameter over slide 460 mm control B2T max. torque on the spindle 3400 Nm turning speeds 5,6-1120 U/min Feed 1-5000 mm/min Rapid movement 5000 mm/min tailstock quill taper MT 6 3 jaw chuck Forckrath 630 mm steady 525 mm steady 335 mm main drive motor 50 kW The tech. Data are manufacturer or operator information and therefore non- binding. We reserve the right to prior sale; Our terms and conditions of sale apply exclusively. About us More than 400 of our own machines in stock Dsdpfx Aajyqtr Ts Hewb Over 15,000 m² of storage space, 70 t crane capacity More than 10,000 items and accessories for your workshop If you are interested in selling machines, production lines, or your business, please contact us. You can find further offers on our website. Tours are possible by appointment. We look forward to your visit. Your Markus Hirsch Team

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2007, Number of working hours 20456 h spindle hours 75180 h control FANUC 310 i chuck diameter 175 mm turning speeds 5.000 min-1 weight of the machine ca. 8800 kg dimensions of the machine ca. 4500 x 1990 x 2300 mm Number of controlled spindles (C axes): 2 Number of controlled axes: 8 Number of channels: 3 Max. bar diameter: 65 mm Bore in tie rod: 75 mm Chuck diameter: 175 mm Spindle nose: 140 mm Max. speed: 5,000 rpm Nominal torque: 191 Nm Nominal power: 20 kW DATA FOR THE W2 AXIS OF THE COUNTER SPINDLE Stroke: 690 mm Rapid traverse: 30 m/min Max. acceleration: 5 m/s² Nominal force: 2,400 N Dodpfx Asydfq Isa Hjwb X1 AXIS DATA Stroke: 165 mm Rapid traverse: 40 m/min Max. acceleration: 10 m/s² Nominal force: 2,400 N Z1 AXIS DATA Stroke: 678 mm Rapid traverse: 30 mm Max. acceleration: 5 m/s² Nominal force: 5,000 N Y1 AXIS DATA Stroke: 80(+50/-30) mm Rapid traverse: 30 m/min Max. acceleration: 5 m/s² Nominal force: 5,000 N X2 AXIS DATA Stroke: 165 mm Rapid traverse: 30 m/min Max. acceleration: 5 m/s² Nominal force: 5,000 N Number of tool stations: 12 Tool holder diameter: 30 mm Driven stations: 12 mm Max. speed of driven tools: 4,000 rpm

Condition: used, turning diameter 710 mm turning length 2000 mm control Heidenhain type Manuel Plus turning diameter over slide 410 mm x-travel 385 mm turning speeds 9-1800 U/min transmission ratio 2 drive capacity - workpiece 22 kW Torque 2500 Nm spindle diameter 160 mm spindle passage 92 mm total power requirement 49 KVA weight of the machine ca. 5,6 t dimensions of the machine ca. 5x2x2,2 m Spindle nose DIN 55027/11 Toolholder: Type MultiFix C Tool holder Capto C4 Tailstock: Tailstock mount MK 6 Quill diameter 110 mm Quill stroke 210 mm Feed rates: Rapid traverse (X/Z) 8/10 m/min Maximum feed rate 5,000 mm/min Maximum feed force 2,000 daN Dwjdpfx Aaoyqtnbo Hsb The tech. Data are manufacturer or operator information and therefore non- binding. We reserve the right to prior sale; Our terms and conditions of sale apply exclusively. About us More than 400 of our own machines in stock Over 15,000 m² of storage space, 70 t crane capacity More than 10,000 items and accessories for your workshop If you are interested in selling machines, production lines, or your business, please contact us. You can find further offers on our website. Tours are possible by appointment. We look forward to your visit. Your Markus Hirsch Team

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 1997, functionality: fully functional, turning diameter over cross slide: 480 mm, spindle bore: 103 mm, turning length: 2,000 mm, turning diameter: 520 mm, turning diameter over bed slide: 520 mm, three-jaw chuck diameter: 400 mm, spindle diameter: 110 mm, workpiece length between centers: 2,000 mm, CNC: Siemens Sinumerik 840 D Swing over bed: 520 mm Permissible swing over carriage: 480 mm 12-position turret Speed range: 7-2800 rpm Distance spindle nose to faceplate: 2171 mm Maximum turning diameter: 520 mm Maximum turning length: 2000 mm X axis: 405 mm Z axis: 2049 mm Spindle speed: 7-3000 rpm Dwjdpjyxv D Nsfx Aa Hjb Spindle bore: 103 mm Spindle nose: A11 No tailstock.

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2004, Technical data: Maximum turning height: 300 mm Maximum turning diameter over bed: 600 mm Maximum diameter over slide: 500 mm Distance between centers: 1500 mm CNC control: FANUC 21i-TB Revolutions: 16 – 4,000 RPM Spindle motor power: 18.5 / 30 kW 3-jaw chuck: 315 mm Tool changer: 12 stations CE marking Dimensions (length x width x height): approx. 6000 x 2300 x 2100 mm Weight: approx. 7.5 tons Dwodpfx Aaoy Ub Ufs Hsb Accessories: 12-position tool turret Numerous tools Numerous driven tools Hydraulic chuck with additional jaws Tailstock W+W filter system Chip conveyor The seller is not liable for typographical or data transmission errors. The machine’s appearance, technical condition, and wear are consistent with its age; used machines are sold without any warranty.

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 1999, Ref. -No.: 10365 Manufacturer: MONFORTS Type: KNC 8 S - 3000 Year of construction: 1999 Type of control: CNC-Steuerung Control: MTC K Storage location: Halberstadt Dedpfxszx Nxde Aa Howb Country of origin: Deutschland Machine-No.: 178.05 X stroke: 455 mm Z - stroke: 2850 mm Chuck diameter: 315/400/500 mm Centre Distance: 3000 mm Feed Capacity - Z: 23,9 kN Feed Capacity - X: 11,3 kN Rapid Travel Speed X-Axis: 6,8 m / min Rapid Travel Speed Z-Axis: 4 m / min Circumferential diameter over radial slide: 540 mm Max swing diameter: 830 mm travel of the cross slide: 450 mm Spindle head max. passage for violent material: 88 mm Spindle head max. passage for bare material: 90 mm Tailstock outside diameter of the quill: 125 mm Tailstock maximum quill stroke: 200 mm Tailstock inner cone: MK6 Type hydraulic tank: 15 L. coolant reservoir: 220 L. Coolant tank at chip conveyor: 160 L. Machine length: 5200 mm Machine width: 2110 mm Machine Height: 1995 mm Weight Of The Machine Ca.: 6,850 (Ohne Späneförderer und Kühlmittelbehäter) t Headstock Spindle Head: DIN 55027 - 11x290 Further information: Additional lubricating oil tank approx. 6l incl. tools Machine is under power and can be inspected by arrangement.

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 2008, Center height: 445 mm Center distance: 4000 mm Swing diameter over bed: 890 mm Swing diameter over cross slide: 550 mm Swing diameter in gap: 1150 mm Spindle speeds: 0 – 1480 rpm Spindle bore: 106 mm Spindle motor: 22 / 33 kW continuous rating / S 6 (40%) Machine weight approx. 12,500 kg Accessories / Special features: • Cycle control FAGOR CNC 8055i TC with alphanumeric keyboard o 10.4" LCD color monitor o Graphic simulation of cycles o Electronic handwheel for manual machine operation • 3-jaw chuck • 8-station tool turret • 2 fixed steady rests with rollers • Movable control panel • Automatic lubrication of headstock • Automatic lubrication of longitudinal and cross slides • Tailstock with hydraulically operated quill • Coolant system • CE conformity Djdpfx Aajyy Nlps Howb Siegfried Volz Werkzeugmaschinen Rüschebrinkstr. 151-153 DE - 44143 Dortmund - Wambel / Germany

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2008, turning diameter 890 mm turning length 3000 mm turning diameter over slide rest 550 mm control Fagor 8055i ATC Revolver 8 tail stock MK 6 turning dia. in gap 1220 mm length of gap 450 mm spindle passage 106 mm turning speeds 15-1480 U/min 3-jaw chuck 400 mm steady 300 mm The tech. Data are manufacturer or operator information and therefore non-binding. We reserve the right to prior sale; Our terms and conditions of sale apply exclusively. About us More than 400 of our own machines in stock Over 15,000 m² of storage space, 70 t crane capacity More than 10,000 items and accessories for your workshop Dwodpfjyqwaujx Aa Hob If you are interested in selling machines, production lines, or your business, please contact us. You can find further offers on our website. Tours are possible by appointment. We look forward to your visit. Your Markus Hirsch Team

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2001, center height over bed 500 mm centre distance 6.000 mm bed width 670 mm turning diameter over bed 1.030 mm turning dia. over face-slide 640 mm Max. workpiece weight between centers 5.000 kg Max. workpiece weight between centers (collet) 6.000 kg feed speeds x- and z-axis 6.500 mm/min spindle head ASA 15" spindle turning speed range 4 - 830 U/min Torque 6.224 Nm total power requirement 70 kW Djdpfozt Szkox Aa Hjwb weight of the machine ca. 11,3 t Headstock: - Front bearing, inside diameter: 235 mm - Rear bearing, inside diameter: 216 mm - Diameter of hole through spindle: 170 mm - Morse taper in spindle sleeve: 6 MK Tailstock: - Quill diameter: 150 mm - Quill travel: 400 mm - Quill morse taper: 6 MK Saddle and cross slide: - Torque AC axes drive motors (X and Z): 17/22 Nm - Max. feed force, X and Z (continuously rated): 2500 daN - Recirculating ballscrew diameter X-axis: 40 x 5 mm - Max. travel, X-axis: 650 mm

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2003, turning diameter 320 mm turning length 750 mm control Siemens type 810DL CCUO turning diameter over slide rest 150 mm cross movement 185 mm spindle passage 52 mm turning speeds 14-3550 U/min transmission ratio 2 quill stroke 120 mm rapid traverse 6 m/min Dwjdpsyutucefx Aa Hjb main drive motor 7 kW 3-jaw-chuck diameter 200 mm total power requirement 10 kW weight of the machine ca. 2 t dimensions of the machine ca. 2,6x1,44x1,44 m 8950 turning hours The tech. Data are manufacturer or operator information and therefore non- binding. We reserve the right to prior sale; Our terms and conditions of sale apply exclusively. About us More than 400 of our own machines in stock Over 15,000 m² of storage space, 70 t crane capacity More than 10,000 items and accessories for your workshop If you are interested in selling machines, production lines, or your business, please contact us. You can find further offers on our website. Tours are possible by appointment. We look forward to your visit. Your Markus Hirsch Team

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2006, turning diameter 550 mm turning length 3100 mm control Fagor 8055T turning diameter over slide 310 mm turning dia. in gap 790 mm length of gap 283 mm spindle passage 51 mm turning speeds 80-3500 U/min Power 15 KW 3-jaw chuck 250 mm steady 220 mm workpiece weight 2000 kg The tech. Data are manufacturer or operator information and therefore non-binding. We reserve the right to prior sale; Our terms and conditions of sale apply exclusively. About us More than 400 of our own machines in stock Over 15,000 m² of storage space, 70 t crane capacity Dwsdpeyuqgvofx Aa Hob More than 10,000 items and accessories for your workshop If you are interested in selling machines, production lines, or your business, please contact us. You can find further offers on our website. Tours are possible by appointment. We look forward to your visit. Your Markus Hirsch Team

Condition: used, Year of construction: 1995, turning diameter 560 mm turning length 1250 mm control Sinumerik 805 turning dia. over face-slide 340 mm spindle bore 63 mm spindle turning speed range 3 - 2500 U/min feeds - longitudinal 0,001 - 3 mm/U Dwsdpoymp Suefx Aa Hob feeds - cross 0,001 - 3 mm/U rapid traverse longitudinal 7 m/min rapid traverse cross 3,5 m/min thread - mm pitch 0,5 - 140 mm thread - inch 1/4 - 56 Gang/ inch. thread - module mm main drive 19 kW clamping length max. 2250 mm total power requirement 24 kW weight of the machine ca. 4,8 t dimensions of the machine ca. 4,0 x 1,65 x 1,75 m controll Siemens 805, for cone turning, contour turning and threat cutting. Machine has MULTIFIX toolholder system size "C", steady and 3 jaw chuck.

Year of construction: 1995, condition: used, machine/vehicle number: 30-S/70, circulation-Ø: ueber Bett 625 mm max. center distance: 1500 mm spindle boring: 105 mm spindle speed: 6,6 - 2000 rpm Dedpe Nzhdofx Aa Hswb space needed: 4400 x 2050 x 1820 mm weight: 5200 kg

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2001, Technical details: Djdpszd Sg Ijfx Aa Hjwb turning diameter over bed: 410 mm turning dia. over face-slide: 200 mm turning length: 950 mm bed width: 330 mm turning diameter over support: 410 mm face slide travel: 630 mm centre height: 200 mm control: Siemens/Weiler D2 milling spindle dia. in forward position: 90 mm spindle bore: 54 mm range of revolution per miute: 1 - 3000 U/min feed speed: 0 - 20 mm/U rapid travel - longitudinal/face: 10/5 m/min tailstock taper MT: 4 diameter of quill: 65 mm quill stroke: 120 mm weight of the machine ca.: 2,1 t dimension machine approx.LxWxH: 2,3 x 1,4 x 1,7 m The E35 is neither a purely manual machine nor a classic CNC, but a hybrid: Work like on a conventional lathe Automatic cycles at the push of a button No complex programming required Extremely fast for single parts & small batch production Also suitable for operators without CNC knowledge Weiler describes it as follows: Simple parts like conventional machining Complex parts like CNC, but easier *

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 2008, functionality: fully functional, machine/vehicle number: X1T126, spindle bore: 42 mm, turning length: 650 mm, turning diameter: 350 mm, spindle speed (max.): 3,500 rpm, controller manufacturer: Fanuc, TECHNICAL DETAILS Max. turning length: 650 mm Max. turning diameter: 350 mm Spindle bore: 42 mm Dsdpfoyg Hvwsx Aa Hswb Max. spindle speed: 3,500 rpm MACHINE DETAILS Control system: Fanuc Dimensions & Weight Dimensions (L x W x H): 2,400 x 1,700 x 1,500 mm Weight: 1,800 kg EQUIPMENT 3-jaw chuck Multiple jaws Collet chuck Collets Steady rest Faceplate Parat tool holder

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 1998, Circulation/rotation Ø over bed 475 mm Rotation/rotation Ø via cross slide 260 mm Sledge path plan 260 mm centre distance 1500 mm power capacity 22 kW Gear stages. m= manual / e= electric. 2 e Spindle head DIN 55026 / DIN 55027 A6 / 6 Spindle Ø in front bearing 115 mm spindle bore 78 / 70 mm turning speed range (V-constant) 1 - 3.000 U/min feed range flat 1µ - 1.000 mm/U feed range lengthwise and thread 1µ - 2.000 mm/U Rapid traverse plan/longitudinal 5 / 10 m/min diameter of quill 70 mm Dwsdpfx Aswgn Agja Hsb quill travel 120 mm quill inner cone 5 MK This machine is used for the production of individual parts and small batches from simple to the most complex contours. It is characterised by: --> Ease of operation Precision Working range

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2008, centre height 400 mm centre distance 2.000 mm turning diameter over bed 810 mm Dwsdpfx Aszugf Hoa Hjb control WEILER D3 turning diameter over slide rest 510 mm turning length 2.000 mm spindle head DIN55027 Gr.11 spindle diameter 150 mm spindle bore 106 mm Turning Speed - Range 1 1 - 450 U/min. power capacity at 60% / 100 % load 37,00 / 30,00 KW max. torque at 60% / 100% load 3.205 / 2.599 Nm Turning Speed - Range 2 4 - 1.800 U/min. power capacity at 60% / 100 % load 37,00 / 30,00 KW max. torque at 60% / 100% load 813 / 659 Nm face slide travel 410 mm upper slide-support travel 140 mm longitudinal feed 0 - 5 mm/U face feed range 0 - 5 mm/U. power feed longitudinal 20.000 N feeding force facing 10.000 N rapid travel - longitudinal/face 10 / 5 m/min tool taper Capto C6 tailstock quill diameter 115 mm tailstock quill stroke 225 mm tailstock quill taper MT 6 thread - mm pitch 0,1 - 250 mm thread - inch 1/4 - 56 inch. thread - module total power requirement 36,00 kW weight of the machine ca. 6,00 t dimensions of the machine ca. 6,00 x 2,50 x H2,20 m Control WEILER D3 Three-jaw chuck ROEHM DURO 630 powered tools (Capto C6) chip-conveyor

Condition: new, Maximum distance between centers: 700 mm Swinging diameter over bed: 390 mm Swinging diameter over carriage: 200 mm Spindle mount: DIN 55026 Spindle bore diameter: 54 mm Dodpfx Aaozrluhj Hswb Maximum spindle speed: 4,000 rpm Drive power: 11/22 kW Machine weight: 2,000 kg

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2010, turning diameter 475 mm turning length 1500 mm control Fagor 8055T Revolver 8 Dedjyqv S Nspfx Aa Hjwb turning diameter over slide 240 mm turning dia. in gap 710 mm length of gap 350 mm spindle passage 51 mm turning speeds 100-4500 U/min Power 7/11 KW 3-jaw chuck 250 mm steady 230 mm The tech. Data are manufacturer or operator information and therefore non-binding. We reserve the right to prior sale; Our terms and conditions of sale apply exclusively. About us More than 400 of our own machines in stock Over 15,000 m² of storage space, 70 t crane capacity More than 10,000 items and accessories for your workshop If you are interested in selling machines, production lines, or your business, please contact us. You can find further offers on our website. Tours are possible by appointment. We look forward to your visit. Your Markus Hirsch Team

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 1996, functionality: fully functional, turning diameter over cross slide: 200 mm, spindle bore: 54 mm, turning diameter: 410 mm, center width: 950 mm, center height: 200 mm, spindle speed (max.): 3,000 rpm, overall weight: 2,100 kg, Equipment: documentation/manual, Dear Sir or Madam, We offer for sale a WEILER E35 CNC cycle lathe. The Siemens 805 cycle control and electronic handwheels make operation very simple and extremely convenient. The machine has been thoroughly inspected in our workshop, is in fully functional condition, and is available for a power-on test at any time. We look forward to your inquiry! Our service promise to you: - We are a certified master workshop specializing in mechanical engineering - All machines are thoroughly checked - All lubricants and, where necessary, worn components are replaced in advance - On request, we can completely or partially overhaul the selected machine for you - You can freely choose the paint color of your selected machine - Additional accessories such as tools can be ordered directly if required Djdpeyalulofx Aa Hjwb - On request, we can install further accessories such as safety devices - We are happy to take care of shipping and/or installation for you